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Julia, I'm convinced more than ever that the evil spirit holds the key to everything that's happened here. He can't be reached, says Julia. What if I don't want to reach him--what if I just want to get rid of him? suggests Barnabas. How? she asks. Another exorcism, says Barnabas. You can't, she objects. I can try, he says, or get someone who knows how. She shakes her head. No, it's too dangerous, she says, believe me, I know what I'm talking about--when he wants to do something, nothing will stop him. His forehead creased with puzzlement, he asks, how do you know that? Because of the way he made me feel when I saw him first, she says, I tried to explain that to you. But if he were gone, perhaps Carolyn and Quentin would recover, suggests Barnabas. That's what Stokes thought, but it didn't work, says Julia. I can't give up, he insists. Barnabas, she says, looking deeply into his eyes, but she walks away and says, I have something important to tell you. Outside the window the ghost stands, looking in at her. Spotting him, she hastily says, it happened at dusk tonight--I was sitting in this room. And what? prompts Barnabas. Nothing, says Julia, it wasn't important, I felt a presence here, probably my imagination, I shouldn't have mentioned it. That's all? asks Barnabas. Yes, she answers. The ghost is gone when Barnabas stands close to Julia and warns, you must be careful--very careful--especially when I'm not with you during the day. I will be, don't worry, she assures him.[/spoiler]