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OT: Johnny Depp as Mark Rainey?
« on: March 04, 2004, 07:00:58 AM »
In the new movie Secret Window, Johnny Depp plays horror writer Mort Rainey, but every time I've seen the trailer over the past week or so, it sounds like the announcer is saying Mark Rainey. The first time I saw it, I thought Mark had done pretty good for himself to have Depp portraying him on screen.  [clap]

Then I find out that I just heard it wrong.   [crazy]


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Re:OT: Johnny Depp as Mark Rainey?
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2004, 04:20:08 PM »
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In the new movie Secret Window, Johnny Depp plays horror writer Mort Rainey, but every time I've seen the trailer over the past week or so, it sounds like the announcer is saying Mark Rainey.

Writers, especially horror writers, tuckerize others to an alarming extent ("tuckerizing" being the practice of using a form of a real person's name, usually a friend, in a story). One of the book dealers that regularly picked up Deathrealm, which I edited from 1987-1997, was a friend of Stephen King's and told me that King periodically got copies of the magazine. So when, in the early 90s, "Secret Window, Secret Garden" came out in Four Past Midnight featuring Mort Rainey, I wrote King and jokingly asked if the name was a pure coincidence or did he have it out for me. He wrote back, and I quote:

"No, the name is not a coincidence. In fact, I expect John Shooter may show up on your doorstep with a chainsaw in one hand and a pair of scissors in the other!"

So it looks like I've been tuckerized by King. ;) I've got the letter framed over my desk (although I might want to take it down for safekeeping, since I'm told a signed letter from Stephen King is worth a couple of hundred bucks). I've been tuckerized by several other writers, and my favorite is Wayne Allen Sallee's: The Rainey-Marklyn House, an insane asylum in Chicago. Friends, you have not been tuckerized at all until you have been made into an asylum.

In regard to Secret Window, my friend and fellow writer James Robert (BOB) Smith asked how come, if Mort Rainey is based on me, how come he's played by Johnny Depp instead of someone like Danny DeVito?

I think John Shooter might need to show up on BOB's doorstep.

--Mark

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Re:OT: Johnny Depp as Mark Rainey?
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2004, 05:51:25 PM »
That's exciting!  The first time I saw the trailer I about fell out of my seat.  I could've sworn it said "Mark", but to find out he was named after you is even better.

John Shooter, brrrr!

I'd never heard of the term "tuckerize" before.  Would've guessed it meant to be immortalized in song by the Marshall Tucker Band.  ::)

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Re:OT: Johnny Depp as Mark Rainey?
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2004, 08:37:27 PM »
So when, in the early 90s, "Secret Window, Secret Garden" came out in Four Past Midnight featuring Mort Rainey, I wrote King and jokingly asked if the name was a pure coincidence or did he have it out for me. He wrote back, and I quote:

"No, the name is not a coincidence. In fact, I expect John Shooter may show up on your doorstep with a chainsaw in one hand and a pair of scissors in the other!"

So it looks like I've been tuckerized by King. ;)

Way to go, Mark! [hello]

I also  could have sworn that the announcer calls Depp's character "Mark Rainey."  Mort or Mark though, this seems like a movie worth watching.

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Re:OT: Johnny Depp as Mark Rainey?
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2004, 08:59:00 PM »
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I also  could have sworn that the announcer calls Depp's character "Mark Rainey."  Mort or Mark though, this seems like a movie worth watching.

I bribed the announcer to say my name instead. ;)

I hope the movie will be good. I hate to say it, but I was not particularly impressed by the original story.

--Mark

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Re:OT: Johnny Depp as Mark Rainey?
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2004, 09:51:32 PM »
I hope the movie will be good. I hate to say it, but I was not particularly impressed by the original story.

BUT, you couldn't ask for a better actor to be "playing you".
If Depp is in it, I'll be watching it.   ;D

Wow...it really IS based on you.  That's quite something!

My favorite actor playing one of my favorite writers!!  [thumb]

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Re:OT: Johnny Depp as Mark Rainey?
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2004, 04:32:12 AM »
How 'bout that!  Quite exciting!!  :)
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Re:OT: Johnny Depp as Mark Rainey?
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2004, 05:14:05 AM »
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My favorite actor playing one of my favorite writers!!

Only the name, not the character, is similar. I shouldn't wish to be in Mort's shoes. ;)

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(Hey ya know, they should pay you something)

Why, yes they should, shouldn't they? But wait... if I had to pay all the people whose names have found their way into my tales, I'd have had to file for bankrupcy a long time ago...

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Re:OT: Johnny Depp as Mark Rainey?
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2004, 08:12:43 AM »
Only the name, not the character, is similar.

Yeah, I know.  I just didn't know how to word it.  That's why you're a writer and I'm not.  [lghy]

[deal2]

Still, he hasn't just used a name extremely close to yours, but the character is also a scifi/horror writer, yes?   (And we all know your writing is a horror)  lol
...So there ya go.  [hdscrt]


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Re:OT: Johnny Depp as Mark Rainey?
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2004, 06:25:01 PM »
Writers, especially horror writers, tuckerize others to an alarming extent ("tuckerizing" being the practice of using a form of a real person's name, usually a friend, in a story). 
That's Great Marcus!! But what do writers call it when they use the real name of a friend in their fictional stories? In Elizabeth Massie's book, 'A House Divided', one Mr. Robert Issel(Hey.....that's me!) ;) appears in text as a trail-blazer of sorts.  ;D
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Re:OT: Johnny Depp as Mark Rainey?
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2004, 06:35:38 PM »
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But what do writers call it when they use the real name of a friend in their fictional stories? In Elizabeth Massie's book, 'A House Divided', one Mr. Robert Issel(Hey.....that's me!)  appears in text as a trail-blazer of sorts.

That's called Bobubizing, and although it's not quite as common a practice as Tuckerizing, some of us have been known to do it.

A House Divided is the other novel I co-wrote with Beth Massie, although my name's not on the cover for contractual reasons. Some of the Civil War research we did for Thomas Rathburn's background in Dreams of the Dark found its way into that book as well.

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Re:OT: Johnny Depp as Mark Rainey?
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2004, 01:16:43 AM »
Congratulations, Mark, on being immortalized on celluloid by Johnny Depp!  I'll never be able to watch Ed Wood the same way again!  (I'm just kidding you!  You don't particularly care for angora sweaters, do you?  Just kidding you again!)

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Re:OT: Johnny Depp as Mark Rainey?
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2004, 01:30:04 AM »
going to start  calling you Mort now... HeeHee Congrats [clap]

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Re:OT: Johnny Depp as Mark Rainey?
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2004, 01:31:10 AM »
I hope the movie will be good. I hate to say it, but I was not particularly impressed by the original story.

Johnny Depp did you proud, Mark.  8)

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Re:OT: Johnny Depp as Mark Rainey?
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2004, 01:57:57 AM »
Saw this movie today. highly recommended,  as soon as i first heard the name "Rainey".... i thought of you mark!!