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« on: March 24, 2024, 05:00:41 PM »
I had the exact same thought!
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Catherine waits in her room for Morgan. When he joins her, she kisses him. He sits on the bed with her--we're going to be going downstairs again soon, he says--there's something I want to tell you. What is it, darling? she asks. If you pick the losing slip, he says, I must insist you let me take your place in that room.
I'll be interested to see how much Sarah Castle has to do in the original script. From what I understand, most of her footage was cut by DC before the film was submitted to MGM. I don't suppose there's much way of knowing how many scenes were actually filmed.
I can't understand DC's problems with Monica Rich. I thought she was very effective in what we do see. Her closeups were incredibly intense and poignant.
Considering some of the adult performers that he put up with (and in some cases, embraced), DC's issues with Monica seem very perplexing.
I'll be interested to see how much Sarah Castle has to do in the original script. From what I understand, most of her footage was cut by DC before the film was submitted to MGM. I don't suppose there's much way of knowing how many scenes were actually filmed.
We'll be dealing with all of Sarah's scripted scenes. But beginning with the following post, so far we've only seen that practically all of her stuff was dropped from Scene 56 (Angelique's funeral): But there doesn't seem to be any info about whether or not the dropped material was ever shot or DC simply cut around it. However, I believe there is such info when it comes to some of Sarah's upcoming scenes, so I'll try to track it down...
I can't understand DC's problems with Monica Rich. I thought she was very effective in what we do see. Her closeups were incredibly intense and poignant.Considering some of the adult performers that he put up with (and in some cases, embraced), DC's issues with Monica seem very perplexing.
I agree with you both. But perhaps it was as simple as michael c related in another topic: DC and Monica simply didn't get along...
Now that we're getting to the scenes with Sarah Castle, I suppose that this is as good a time as any to inquire about Monica Rich. I've heard stories over the years that DC was unsatisfied with her performance and cut out or simply did not film a lot of her scenes. The script, as published by KLS, doesn't really give Sarah a significantly larger part. Rich's imdb page doesn't list any credits other than NODS. Did Sarah have a larger part in an earlier script? And just how bad an actor did you have to be for DC to edit your part down?
Grayson's script is earlier than DC's and Sarah's part is the same in both. The interesting thing so far as cuts go is that in the scripts Sarah has more to do in Scene 56 (Angelique's funeral) but none of it is in the film. Also interestingly is that scene is a somewhat rewritten version in DC's script yet Sarah's part is still the same. And even more interestingly is that Scene 56 was the first one shot for the film so one might presume that not having worked with her yet, DC would have shot Monica Rich/Sarah's part - but if he did and it wasn't that he just didn't bother to shoot it (he could have deemed it an unnecessary character moment, which would have certainly been in keeping with how he operated), it ended up on the cutting room floor. And as we'll see in the upcoming Scenes 118 through 131 (1810 flashback), there are several instances where Sarah material is not in the film, not even the 129 minute version. In fact, there's one entire scene that is not in any version of the film...
As for how bad an actor someone had to be to have their part edited down, I never thought Monica gave a bad performance in any of her surviving material in the film, so I question how bad she could have been if what's missing really was shot. I agree with what Gothick had to say back in 2016:I can't understand DC's problems with Monica Rich. I thought she was very effective in what we do see. Her closeups were incredibly intense and poignant.
Continuing Scene 124 (using Grayson's script):
Strack
Traskand then the others file down the stairs.
Angelique stares coldly ahead, holding herself aloof
124 CONTD CONTD 124
from her persecutors. One of the men holds a
blood-soaked kerchief to his face. Charles is the
last to appear. He has already resigned himself
to her fate. As they are about to go down the
next flight, Sarah suddenly runs in, throwing her
arms around Angelique's waist.
And that's when today's quote -Page 62/Scene 124 - Sarah: 'No! No! I won't let you take her! She is good! She is good!'
- comes up.
And as far as differences in the dialogue go, playing over the outset of this section of the scene is actually unscripted voiceover by Carlotta: "She walked down the stairs so proudly. They were all afraid to touch her. I suddenly knew I would never see her again. I ran to her. I couldn't let her go" - though whether or not that was always planned as a continuation of the scripted voiceover from earlier in the scene or as a replacement for it when the earlier part of the scene wasn't included in the film, who knows? (It has been mentioned that after the marathon editing session David Selby and John Karlen were called in to dub new stuff to help to make what remained make more sense, but I've never seen it mentioned that Grayson also was.) - and the end of the unscripted voiceover actually plays over Sarah's lines, which are actually "No! No! I won't let you take her!" with the "She is good! She is good!" part completely dropped. (Though it may have been shot but was simply cut because right after Sarah says that she won't let them take Angelique, the camera switches from shooting like today's capture -
- and focuses on a close-up of Charles that we will see as part of tomorrow's slideshow.
And as far as differences in the directions and the descriptions go, there is actually a clasp of thunder as the film makes the switch from Scene 122's proclamation by Strack that Charles shall watch Angelique die to Scene 124 and Carlotta's unscripted voiceover regarding how Angelique descended the stairs - and the interesting thing is that Angelique seems to stare at Laura almost the entire time she walks down the stairs, and the smug look on Laura's face, as can be seen in the following capture -
- is absolutely priceless as Angelique reaches Laura in the second floor corridor! And if looks could kill, Laura might have been dead there and then given the way -
- Angelique looks at her. And what's also interesting is that as Angelique moves away from Laura, she has a slight smile on her face -
- as if she already knows her impending hanging will be far from the end. Though one other thing is that we don't see one of Strack's henchman, presumably the one Angelique scratched in Scene 85, holding a blood-soaked kerchief. In fact, we haven't even seen him in the scene at all yet - and the explanation for why that is will be coming in a future post...
And there are no notes in either DC's or Grayson's script for any of this section. In fact, there are no notes for any of Scene 124. Though one thing I haven't mentioned yet is that the end of Scene 124 is different/longer in DC's script from the way it is in Grayson's - and we'll deal with that once we've reached the 22nd's installment of the slideshow...
And to give you something else to look forward to, on the 23rd I'll be sharing the very first article published for the film that features photos taken of some of the first scenes shot for the film. It you've never seen the article, you might be surprised which scenes were soon to be shot after shooting began with Angelique's funeral...
When it comes to the subtitles and closed captioning, obviously we've seen and will continue to see them use variations of what's actually said in the film, but rarely do we see them skip entire lines. However, for Scene 124 they do indeed do that.
First up, after Carlotta's narration where she says, "I ran to her," Sarah screams, "No! No!" before Carlotta's narration continues with, "I couldn't let her go." - and we saw that in the subtitles' version of the narration - but the closed captioning jumps from -
- right to -
...
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the decline of the beats and the rise of hippies."
For Scene 124 part of Carlotta's narration is "They were all afraid to touch her. I suddenly knew I would never see her again." - and the subtitles completely reflect that - however, the closed captioning has -
- with "all" and "suddenly" missing for some reason...
...
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