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Current Talk '04 II / Re: Barnabas--Love and Lust list
« on: August 09, 2004, 01:29:09 PM »
Well.  ..he did give a little, i stress a little but only 'cuz of his own self-interest or lust. . .for Josette, Vicki or Kitty.  The only selfless things he did were for Vicki (not biting her and going back in time to save her from execution). ..all other actions were motivated to save his own sorry behind. . .not that i don't enjoy watching it but let's be real, Barnabas was a selfish son-of-a--you know the rest.  And that does not robe him (for his lusty admirrers) of his romantic aura. . if you look at the great romantic heros of literature .. they are mostly all in the same vein.

 ::) :P :-*

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Current Talk '04 II / Re: Barnabas--Love and Lust list
« on: August 08, 2004, 11:32:04 PM »
Quote from: Raineypark on August 08, 2004, 05:35:58 PM
In my opinion Barnabas Collins' only deeply abiding love affair was with his own self-preservation.  In order to avoid either the stake-in-the-heart OR the chain-on-the-casket he was willing to, and often DID allow the death or misery of those around him.  Especially the women.

How many time did he ever say "I love you" as opposed to how many times he said "he/she/it MUST be DESTROYED!"?

I think we should now seal this topic because Rainey spoken the absolute TRUTH. . .

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Current Talk '04 II / Re: Barnabas--Love and Lust list
« on: August 07, 2004, 04:01:29 PM »
Quote from: Angelina on August 06, 2004, 10:40:07 PM
I'm kind of curious about Julia's feelings for Barnabas.  I suppose she initially lusted for him and that grew to love.  He could be so wicked and downright abusive to her in the earlier eps...I don't know how much that changes later.  What was it about him that she desired so much.  Sure, he was a hottie but he could also be so sexist, abusive and manipulative toward her.  I guess she just saw his inner hurt.

I've commented on this before but for the newbies. . Grayson said publically that she used Julia being inlove with Barnabas as a subtext for her character, who seemed rather dull to her.  She acted it, it wasn't scripted--then folks caught on and they ran with it.  I think, for me anyway,  Julia's original feelings grew out of a possesiveness for her "pet science project".  When he started revealing his past to her --the feeling became deeper and complex ..of course then he tried to drive her insane and kill her. . .it was a 'thin line' like she said.  Eventually they became quite good friends, companions and Barnabas couldn't function without her--a fact recognized by Dan Curtis who wouldn't kill off Julia Hoffman even though Sam Hall suggested it as a way to continue the show when it appeared B&J had gone everywhere and done what they could in the family's past .. .

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Current Talk '04 II / Barnabas--Love and Lust list
« on: August 06, 2004, 04:17:57 PM »
Taken from another topic:

Quote from: mscbryk on August 06, 2004, 01:37:18 AM
another great moment...when vicki gets caught in a storm and is forced to spend the night in josette's room at the old house...when she's asleep barnabas comes into the room and gazes at her longingly...but he cannot bring himself to take her blood.it sums up the complexity of b's character.

you know i don't like to acknowledge this but i think as Julia later said  to Barnabas.. "oh you really do love Vicki. ."  or some facsimile of that. . . .so B loved
  • Josette (im including Kitty here),
  • Vicki,


I think he LUSTED after
  • Roxanne
  • Angelique--

I also think on a deep level Barnabas loved Julia--what kind of love ..sisterly, somewhat, friendly, definitely, more than that--well that was never fully explored--cancellation interferred with best laid plans. . .

anyone wanna add or modify the list  (I didn't include all his meals in the LUST category)

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Calendar Events / Announcements '04 II / Re: Nancy Barrett @ Conventin Question
« on: August 04, 2004, 01:06:03 PM »
Quote from: Darren Gross on August 03, 2004, 11:00:09 PM
Singing. :o

Oh Darren!  where is the SNORT icon?

Yes singing...a caberet act as i understand it ..not Letitia Faye' stuff.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '04 II / Re: Convention
« on: August 04, 2004, 12:50:33 PM »
You can always look for the Grayson's Legion T-shirts too. . there is the yellow one from last year, red one from year before and this year .. well this year. . they are teal w/a a B& W photo of B&J on the front .. the Back of Course says' Grayson's Legion". . ..and we can point out other folks from this list and others. . .

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Current Talk '04 II / Re: favorite "moment"
« on: August 04, 2004, 12:46:21 PM »
Any scene where Julia slaps someone ...The Cassandra scene GOSC pointed out and when Julia slaps Joe . . and then when Joe's going nuts at the jail and Julia whips out that big ole hypo. . . .yeah that' s fun. . .Of course i like the plaintive love lorn scene between B&J just after they left PT and Barnabas' survival of the silver bullet in 1995 and Julia's emotional breakdown. . .

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Calendar Events / Announcements '04 II / Re: Review of DS Reunion DVD
« on: August 03, 2004, 10:23:43 PM »
Quote from: Darren Gross on July 22, 2004, 12:52:20 AM
Ooh. A Grayson Hall bra commercial. What a hoot!

The irony. . .

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Current Talk '04 II / Re: The Divine One Strikes Again
« on: August 03, 2004, 10:18:17 PM »
Quote from: Misa on August 03, 2004, 08:44:14 AM
What year was the young Grayson picture you posted taken?

unknown.

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Current Talk '04 II / Re: The Divine One Strikes Again
« on: August 03, 2004, 03:03:41 AM »
Quote from: mscbryk on August 02, 2004, 12:42:41 AM
1962?! boy was i off...the floppy hat was totally giving me 1974 :P.wasn't ms.hall only in her early 40's when she began on d.s.?that would make her mid 30's when this movie as made...did this woman ever look young?

Grayson was 39 in 1962. .born in 1923 . . .now as to did she ever look young. .how about this?  I posted this a few months ago--

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Current Talk '04 II / Re: The Divine One Strikes Again
« on: August 03, 2004, 02:57:35 AM »
Quote from: mscbryk on August 01, 2004, 05:08:44 PM
love the hat! :-*i also love the stand-alone ashtray at the shoe store.what year was this made in?i'm going to guess 1974.i'll look for this at the video store although it looks pretty obscure.thanks heather!

SIHH was made in 1962.

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Current Talk '04 II / Re: The Divine One Strikes Again
« on: August 01, 2004, 04:03:56 PM »
Hey Heather those are great shots. . .i too have thought wouldn't it be wild if Barnabas came home and saw Julia perched atop a desk with a cigarette a la Pepe. . .wonder if she did that privately for Sam?  :-*

Hey girl . .send me those captures --you know where. . .

Am I the only one who **doesn't** like the hat?

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Calendar Events / Announcements '04 II / Re: Happy Birthday, Gothick!
« on: July 30, 2004, 02:09:39 AM »
Connie. . you've no idea how fitting that particular strip is .. . Hope your trip was fun Steve even if Judith was screaming in your ear the entire time!!

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Current Talk '04 II / Re: Grayson Question
« on: July 20, 2004, 02:08:13 AM »
Quote from: Patti on July 18, 2004, 01:32:07 AM
J99...that's neat to hear...I don't suppose you have any more details or specifics? (Hmm...we need their son!!)

No salaciousness here. . she fixed him, her husband and her son dinner. . . I understand they would run lines while she prepared dinner. . .and at other times talk on the phone the night before a big scene.    Oh and it probably wasn't every night. . i exaggerated for effect  but to quote Karlen (at last year's Fest). ."She was a fabulous cook" sooo. . i'da mooched too. . i hate cooking although i'm rumored to be pretty good at it. . i'm just lazy i guess.

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Current Talk '04 II / Re: Grayson Question
« on: July 18, 2004, 03:26:50 PM »
Quote from: mscbryk on July 18, 2004, 02:39:19 AM
julia99, i have a question about your quote "my fans are legion".did ms. hall ever say that? it's pretty fab.i've never seen her in anything else, does anyone know if she did other movies/t.v.?

Yes Grayson did say that in a 1970ish magazine interview. . .she was poking fun at something her husband had said about a book was writing, "all about Grayson". . .she quipped who'd read it "My Fans are Legion!"

And for the most comprehensive (but not complete) look at Grayson's career, check out this website:

http://hometown.aol.com/allard1234/ghresume.htm

It's color-coded by theatre, television, film and radio

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