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Members' Mausoleum => Calendar Events / Announcements Archive => Calendar Events / Announcements '24 I => Calendar Events / Announcements '03 I => Topic started by: victoriawinters on May 05, 2003, 08:44:51 AM
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well since no one has posted this yet, thought i'd start. one of the theories of why the fest was stopping was because the actors/actresses were tired and didn't want to have a three day fest each year. (not to say they won't have somekind of event as stated by pansyfaye but we don't know what yet.)
well that myth flies out the door with the lastest news statement on stuart's web page from TLAKLS. here is the click (http://www.collinwood.net/news).
very lovely of her to say something i think. and i'm sorry too because i just don't think you should treat your talent that way and let them be the last to know. IMO, i think it's rude.
thanks stuart for the update to your page!
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Hello Victoria Winters i agree with you!!
Just read about it yesterday on Stuart's board.
Love Anne 8)
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Well, I don't shock easily, but I must say that as someone who plans a lot of events myself in my own community, I'm simply staggered that nobody on the Festival committee had the courtesy to call or email the actors and let them know ahead of time about a decision of this magnitude.
I had also always thought that the actors were kept in the loop of the date planning for each year's Festival. Another illusion shattered.
Given these revelations, I'm starting to think it might be just as well to say "Farewell" to the current Festival committee and let folks who know how to do their jobs take over. (Just my opinion, quite honestly... I know it's been a thankless job for years, but if you're not going to do it right, why bother? which presumably is the line of thinking that led to declaring this year the "Farewell" Festival.)
I do like KLS' spin on it as being like when a character would say "farewell" on the series and then the same actor would reappear shortly thereafter in a new role!
Gothick
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I assure you Gothick that most of the comittee (if not all) had no idea the fests were ending. I had no clue until ProfStokes IMed me on aol about it. I contacted 3 of my friends on the comittee and they didn't know until I told them. There may have been a few who were included in the decision but it was not a group effort.
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According to the SG update Tim just posted, what's ending is the 3-day convention format. Yet the festival site calls the next one "the final DS Festival". If you ask me, the spin they're putting on these announcements is terribly confusing.
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Jenny, thanks for letting us know that the decision to make this year's event a "Farewell" was the decision of a few (or perhaps only one?) member(s) of the Festival committee.
Just thinking of all the flak the rest of you are catching from upset fans and celebrities makes my head ache!
Thank you for all your efforts on behalf of this beleaguered event. It's obviously one that means a great deal to a great many people.
Sincerely,
Steve (Gothick)
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Thank you Victoria Winters for posting this. I had no idea that the actors/actresses didn't have a clue to the fest ending either. This is really sad. I would think they would have been the first to know, not certainly the last!! What a mean thing to do.
Deb >:(
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According to the SG update Tim just posted, what's ending is the 3-day convention format. Yet the festival site calls the next one "the final DS Festival". If you ask me, the spin they're putting on these announcements is terribly confusing.
TBH, I think there's a more than a little back-pedalling going on here. I guess the fan reation was stronger than they expected and the new, less definite tact is an attempt to placate a lot of upset people.
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Jenny, thanks for letting us know that the decision to make this year's event a "Farewell" was the decision of a few (or perhaps only one?) member(s) of the Festival committee
Not a poblem. Believe me, if there had been more people involved I don't think things would have turned out this way.
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Wow she sounds so nice in all her interviews!still hope to get there this year!
jennifer
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You know, it could have been handled much worse.
They could have made a surprise announcement at the upcoming festival that it would be the last one.
:-X
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Guess it occured to them that they might be ripped limb from limb if they made a "suprise" announcement in front of all those fans. >:(
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Guess it occured to them that they might be ripped limb from limb if they made a "suprise" announcement in front of all those fans. >:(
They still may not be safe.... ;)
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If you ask me, the spin they're putting on these announcements is terribly confusing.
It almost seems to me that this "farewell fest" idea might be connected with the earlier uprising against the change of the festival date to Labor Day weekend. I tend to be cynical about more and more as time goes by so I'm sure I could be wrong. Based on the one fest I've attended ('01) and the size of the crowd, it certianly doesn't seem they would ever have to resort to a "last chance get it while it lasts" ad campaign. [deal2]
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I guess the fan reation was stronger than they expected and the new, less definite tact is an attempt to placate a lot of upset people.
I think it would be fair to guess that the actors -- since they only received word by virtue of the fact that fans contacted KLS who then apparently began to inform her castmates within the past few days -- may also require a bit of placating.
I guess they really don't read all the Dark Shadows message boards, email lists, and web sites after all. ;D
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It almost seems to me that this "farewell fest" idea might be connected with the earlier uprising against the change of the festival date to Labor Day weekend. I tend to be cynical about more and more as time goes by so I'm sure I could be wrong. [deal2]
I'm only aware of the feedback in the petition and not privy to what may have been said directly to the festival committee, but what was presented to them was a long listing of comments that politely and articulately stated that either the new dates presented a hardship or that the person supported the others that are being inconvenienced, with some comments also addressing the new location. JP and pansyfaye each received copies and the latter expressed her thanks and sent an email to all the "signers" that provided contact info. And speaking as the person that gathered all the posts and emails, I promise that there wasn't anything contained in the petition that would make them want to retaliate.
Rumors and speculation have been rampant following the latest announcement, which isn't at all surprising considering the way it was presented to us, yet pansyfaye has remained open to feedback. She inquired recently about what's being said here because she's not a member and can't read the comments herself, but it's no secret that she's present on other forums. This is why I don't understand (!) why fans are willing to speak very bluntly on the hundreds of DS lists and other forums yet hesitant to express how they feel directly to the committee for fear it will somehow lead to repercussions.
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I'm only aware of the feedback in the petition and not privy to what may have been said directly to the festival committee, but what was presented to them was a long listing of comments that politely and articulately stated that either the new dates presented a hardship or that the person supported the others that are being inconvenienced, with some comments also addressing the new location. JP and pansyfaye each received copies and the latter expressed her thanks and sent an email to all the "signers" that provided contact info. And speaking as the person that gathered all the posts and emails, I promise that there wasn't anything contained in the petition that would make them want to retaliate.
As long as the festival has existed, there have been people unhappy about where it was, when it was, what was programmed, and so on. I have no doubt the petition Midnite organized and sent to JP et al. was well received but with the experience and knowledge that nothing pleases everyone. I doubt they would fold over the petition. Imagine the litany of complaints this festival has gotten over twenty years and still kept going strong. If anything, many fans have complained the festivals have become too large and too commercial and preferred the more innocent, less crowded "old days." The security factors have increased along with the crowds.
JP said a few years ago to some people, including me, that the festivals were going to "wind down" and now is obviously the time that is being done. I emailed with a festival staff member last week who told me she heard the same thing from JP awhile back as well, and thought a change in format was a good thing.
Nancy
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The security factors have increased along with the crowds.
I can definitely see where that would be an issue based on recent experiences.
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And speaking as the person that gathered all the posts and emails, I promise that there wasn't anything contained in the petition that would make them want to retaliate.
I wasn't thinking of it as retaliation. I was thinking more along the lines of it being seen as a way of (perhaps) convincing people who may have been on the fence about the date and location to make the decision to come any way - that is, if they thought there were enough people who may have been upset about it.
Sorry - I don't think I made that very clear in my post. [nuts]
Ooops, I should have realized this is the way the unfounded rumor mill gets going - it was a pretty long shot logic-wise any way.
CastleBee ~ Who has not lost hope that she will one day learn to keep her... [lpsldb]
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It almost seems to me that this "farewell fest" idea might be connected with the earlier uprising against the change of the festival date to Labor Day weekend. I tend to be cynical about more and more as time goes by so I'm sure I could be wrong.
Your theory sounds as good as any, Castlebee. They might have decided to throw in the towel after taking a lot of heat after the switch to Labor Day weekend. Or that could have been a deciding factor -- the straw that broke the camel's back. If personal factors were what's behind the decision, then we'll obviously never be told.
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I wasn't thinking of it as retaliation. I was thinking more along the lines of it being seen as a way of (perhaps) convincing people who may have been on the fence about the date and location to make the decision to come any way - that is, if they thought there were enough people who may have been upset about it.
Sorry - I don't think I made that very clear in my post. [nuts]
My fault, sorry, for misunderstanding. :-
. . . that she will one day learn to keep her... [lpsldb]
Oh please don't.
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Oh please don't.
Yes Castle Bee please don't as soon the battle of the hair to the ceiling(marge simpson look) will begin and this is always worth a few laughs!
jennifer
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Oh please don't.
Don't worry you guys...there's probably not much chance of that actually happening since I'm pretty sure by now that it's genetically impossible - at least for extended periods of time! Nobody ever wondered why my grandfather occasionally called me "clatter jaw". [lghy]
If personal factors were what's behind the decision, then we'll obviously never be told.
Completely agree - but I'll bet the rumors will no doubt be flying for some time!
CastleBee ~ looking forward to the great hair race! Ahhh the entertainment value of 60's/70's fashions never seems to wane![/font]
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Please note that my post was meant to respond immediately to the earlier post Castlebee made, which I thought was the most recent post on the board -- I wasn't aware that there was nearly a full second page of commentary that followed hers, which I hadn't read.