DARK SHADOWS FORUMS
General Discussions => Current Talk Archive => Current Talk '24 I => Current Talk '02 II => Topic started by: VAM on August 23, 2002, 02:09:00 AM
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Everyone here has their favorites with regards to the actresses and actors on the show. However, I know each time I watch the Series my list grows a little larger. This year, I have developed a deeper appreciation for Thayer David's talents. Please share with us some of your insights watching once again and which performer you view with a different perspective.
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I developed a deeper appreciation for Clarice Blackburn this time around, especially in the scenes with Craig Slocum, they're my fave scenes she did, and as others have stated she really does look like him! Too bad she didn't wear her natural red hair on the show.
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Well, to tell you the truth - and maybe I've been partially influenced by the positive vibes coming from our own Craig_Slocum's undying love for him which appears to be matched only by Annie's unending amour for the Q-Man ;) - I've been rethinking my original opinion of Slocum's acting skills somewhat this time around. I honestly couldn't see anything much at all in him the first time but now I think he does a pretty decent parasitic good for nothing (that was a compliment BTW ;) ).
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I've been rethinking my original opinion of Slocum's acting skills somewhat this time around. I honestly couldn't see anything much at all in him the first time but now I think he does a pretty decent parasitic good for nothing (that was a compliment BTW ;) ).
He kinda grows on you and maybe by next year he will be on my list... ::)
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Well, this should make VAM happy, but I've come to appreciate Lara Parker a bit more. I still don't think she's anything great as an actress, but she plays her part with great conviction and she's usually entertaining.
I appreciate her Cassandra more every time I see the episodes.
Luciaphil
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:) This time around I would say I've added to my list....Mr. Astredo. The overtures of hand gestures still is a bit much but he really plays an evil Nicholas to the hilt. ;D
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I'm starting to appreciate Jeff Clark... not!
I don't really change that much if anything i find characters more annoying like Adam, Vicki, Eve, Harry
and still love Prof S, Roger, Carolyn, Nickolas, Mrs J. B&J Willie, Elizabeth.Joe...sorry that wasn't the question oh well has to be Mrs J then for not just running off and leaving this weird Collin's family that keep odd hours and making her job harder than it should be! :o
jennifer
now ask when again when Chris J appears :-* :-* :-*
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I really developed a greater respect for Robert Rodan this time around, mainly during Adam's speechless days. It must have been very difficult to convey so many emptions with only hand gestures and facial expressions, but Rodan was very convincing.
I've also come to appreciate Louis Edmonds a great deal more.
ProfStokes
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There's a few that I appreciate more this time around than before. First of all, I've never noticed before just how well Hubert Allen Astredo plays his part. He never makes a flub, nor do you ever see him looking over at the teleprompter trying to read his lines. His facial expressions are also very well matched to his character. My parents also watch the show with me at night (I tape it for them) and my dad, who is 81 and very up on the show also remarked about this.
I also like Thayer David alot more this time around and have noticed just how unique an actor his is. He's had quite a few characters to play on the show and he plays each one out so convincing. Some of his characters are as different as night & day, yet he's so believable in all of them.
[spoiler]I also like seeing Harry Johnson on the show and enjoy the scenes between him and his mother. (I think they really do look alike) It's too bad that they had to drop his character like that with no explanation at all. And then when they decided to get that one day replacement for him, it totally ruined the whole character.[/spoiler]
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Well, this should make VAM happy, but I've come to appreciate Lara Parker a bit more. I still don't think she's anything great as an actress, but she plays her part with great conviction and she's usually entertaining.
I appreciate her Cassandra more every time I see the episodes.
Is it April Fool's Day? :) Yes Luciaphil, I am happy for Miss Parker not myself.
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[spoiler]I also like seeing Harry Johnson on the show and enjoy the scenes between him and his mother.( I think they really do look alike) It's too bad that they had to drop his character like that with no explanation at all. And then when they decided to get that one day replacement for him, it totally ruined the whole character. [/spoiler]
I totally agree with you on all of this! What a big let down. >:(
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When I was fourteen it never occurred to me that Grayson Hall was attractive.
Now that I'm .....older...... I think it's remarkable how attractive she actually was, and incredible that I couldn't see it before.
I also didn't pay enough attention to Thayer David. Back 'then' I saw Prof. Stokes as someone who might have saved Willie from Barnabas and resented his failure to do so. Now I'm just amazed at how versatile the actor was and how well written his part was....tho I think it's still a mystery why HIS part is so well written in comparison to others.
Rainey
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I also didn't pay enough attention to Thayer David. Back 'then' I saw Prof. Stokes as someone who might have saved Willie from Barnabas and resented his failure to do so. Now I'm just amazed at how versatile the actor was and how well written his part was....tho I think it's still a mystery why HIS part is so well written in comparison to others.
He made changes to the script...KLS made the statement at a FRIGTVISION Q & A.
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The character which I enjoy most has to be "Cassandralique". Lara Parker brings to life these characters in a very convincing way. She exumes Evil and beauty like no one else can on the show.
The character which I can't seem to warm up to is Eve.
For some reason, she justs rubs me the wrong way.
For what it's worth, I think Willie is pretty good too.
His diologue with Banabas while in the cell yesterday was very touching.
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He made changes to the script...KLS made the statement at a FRIGHTVISION Q & A.
Ahh... It all starts to come together. I've always thought it odd that Thayer's characters like the Professor and the Count were so... let's say "authentically sophisticated" compared to the others. Besides being a fine performance, they always did seem better written, as Rainypark says...
Even servile Ben had a certain complexity that I never saw duplicated in Barnabas's other minion, Willie--although John Karlen was more than his match for energy and passion...
I think Thayer must have been a remarkable person...
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Like ProfStokes, I too have come to appreciate Robert Rodan quite a bit more than the first time I saw this story line (and this is only my second viewing of it). Once I got past the absurdity of the material, I was impressed with the way he developed with his character. I found him enchanting in several early scenes before his character could speak.
I'm also more impressed with Marie Wallace as Eve; I never cared for the character but I became more impressed with the actress when she played Jenny in 1897. This time I can appreciate her abilities more as "Eve."
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I concur with people:
Clarice Blackburn (couldn't stand her my 1st time 'round)
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Marie Wallace
Since I've seen a few of her characters; she does have range.
I haven't like any of her characters, but, she does have range.
Funny, though, let's flip the quarter...who I've learned to dislike is Barnabas.
I also used to like.....v i c k i ::)
Patti
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Two actors in particular come to mind for me. First Chris Pennock was pretty unconvincing in the beginning as the Leviathan but he just seemed to get better and better as the story line evolved. I really began to appreciate him as Gabriel.
But the one actor who brought out the best in everyone was Dennis Patrick. The man could act. He always seemed so well prepared and I don't recall ever seeing him looking at the teleprompter. Still, he could really 'ham' it up at times but I find that all the more endearing. He had some terrific scenes with Roger, Liz, Barnabas and Willie. I also like the confrontation he had with Carolyn when he caught her reading his diary.
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Well, to tell you the truth - and maybe I've been partially influenced by the positive vibes coming from our own Craig_Slocum's undying love for him which appears to be matched only by Annie's unending amour for the Q-Man ;) - I've been rethinking my original opinion of Slocum's acting skills somewhat this time around. I honestly couldn't see anything much at all in him the first time but now I think he does a pretty decent parasitic good for nothing (that was a compliment BTW ;) ).
Ditto that!
Also, HAA, I am just loving him this time around. I used to think he was a big ham. I don't know why the turn around, but I now think he is really, really great.
Roger Davis gets more annoying as time goes on. I shudder to think of what that effect will have on Amanda Harris/Olivia Corey. Gruesome thought.
While I continue to adore Jonathon Frid and how he played the role, I find myself less and less enchanted with Barney.
I wasn't madly in love with Roger until this go round. I think the initial part of the show did it for me. He hates his kid? He drives drunk, hits someone and sends someone else to prison for it? Hey, that's MY KIND OF MAN! No, really, just his wit and snobbery did it for me.
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I found the watering down of barnabas sad.In the beginning he seemed more substantive,but as the show goes on he loses his "deep" characterization and becomes vapid and a playboy running after younger "women".Of course that wasn't frids fault.He just worked with the material he got as best as could be under the circumstances.
Julia also loses her strong independent woman characterization from the beginning and becomes dependent on a man who doesn't seem to love her,but she loves to a fault.Although there are moments when she regains her independence for little spurts,she always crumbles around barnabas.I guess hope does spring eternal.
I'm appreciating thayer david's characters all the more the second time around.He plays them with panache and style.He infuses wit and wisdom that is sorely missing on the show.He gets an A+ from me.
I also hate the fact maggie evans and victoria are watered down from women with something of a clue to complete idiots just about.Both started out well,but went down hill with (almost) everyone else."I don't understand" is a common phrase at this time instead of the brow creasing and think it out.
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I also like seeing Harry Johnson on the show and enjoy the scenes between him and his mother.( I think they really do look alike)
Last night while I was watching the rest of the week's tapes I remembered what you said (above) Cassandra and so I watched their scene together in the foyer more closely than I normally would have. And I completely agree! I think I can see it most in their noses and shape of the faces. Amazing! I wonder if this had anything at all to do with the decision to cast Craig Slocum?
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I loved Barnabas from day one and continue to do so from day one! I'm as enthralled with him now as I was when I was a kid. Though perhaps I am more aware of how self-absorbed and selfish he can be at times and can understand why some on here can get annoyed with him at times. I don't agree he was 'watered' down....his chasing after SYT's did get tiresome but he was still very much a complex character.
I appreciate Nancy Barrett now much more than when I was younger. I used to think Joan Bennett was the best actress on the show and while I still like Joan very much I know see that Nancy was very much versatile in her roles. She was such a hoot as Charity/Pansy and Leticia, wonderfully ditzy as Millicent (though Millicent wasn't one of my favs, she still did a good job) and matured Carolyn from the wild spitfire at the beginning of the show to the more mature, sensible woman she became by the end of the show (though she still needed classes on character judgments during the Leviathans....she was totally wrong about Bruno being 'harmless' and she was as blind as a bat where Jeb in his killing machine phase was concerned). I also felt for Melanie, desperately trying to fit into a family that treats her like a child and a prisoner at times.
I am sorry but I have always felt and still do that Harry Johnson was a throwaway character that was not needed on the show. Take him out of the show and I honestly would not have missed him (Sorry Cheryl if you're still out there!). It was already established that Mrs. Johnson had a daughter during the early days of the show...I think it would have been wiser to have introduced her instead.