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Messages - Darren Gross

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Calendar Events / Announcements '24 I / Re: Happy Birthday, Darren Gross!
« on: December 28, 2021, 10:19:59 PM »
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Thanks. I hope you had a nice Christmas, Annie.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '24 I / Re: Happy Birthday, Darren Gross!
« on: December 24, 2021, 04:30:40 AM »
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Thank you!

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Calendar Events / Announcements '24 I / Re: Happy Birthday to Darren Gross!
« on: December 06, 2020, 10:40:58 AM »
Thanks everyone for your posts and well wishes!

It's so appreciated!

:-)

D

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: John Karlen in HIDDEN FACES
« on: May 29, 2019, 04:55:54 PM »
Not a single episode survives, unfortunately.

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Current Talk '24 I / Re: John Karlen in HIDDEN FACES
« on: May 29, 2019, 06:40:03 AM »
Any memories or impressions that strike you, Uncle Roger? I'd love to hear them.
It looks like it was a pretty expensive show for awhile.  I'm told the opening title sequence was pretty striking.

Music by Cobert, costumes by Ohrbachs. Addison Powell even appeared in an early episode. Lots for a DS fan to enjoy.

There was a lot of casting changes during its short run.  Karlen was in about 5-6 episodes, late in the run, playing a role started by Richard Lynch.

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Current Talk '24 I / John Karlen in HIDDEN FACES
« on: May 28, 2019, 11:13:26 PM »
Howdy! I'm writing an article/possible book on the lost 1969 Soap HIDDEN FACES. I've unearthed reams of fascinating material which will make a great read, but unfortunately photos are very scarce, and I've yet to find a single one of John Karlen in the show. Given he had a fan club and a big following at this point, I'm curious if he discussed the show in any newsletters or if anyone took any off-the-TV set snapshots of him when he appeared, that they'd be willing to share? Thanks!

He only appeared in a few episodes, but it was a fun character, hippie regalia, etc.

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"The girls work on" Quentin...

I'm just imagining the stampede here if somehow Dan Curtis were to appear and bark, "OK, ladies, I need a coupla girls to WORK ON Quentin Collins.  Anyone up for that?"

Curtis might not even have time to put his cigarillo down before the mob trampled him...

I just love this thread!!

G.

Ha!

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Oops - I forgot that I also wanted to post this photo:


Not that it's from the dream (Darren believes it's a behind the scenes still from Scene 85), but to me it seems very odd. Am I the only one who thinks it looks like Angelique doesn't have any ankles/feet?!

I must have misspoke or malapropped- this image is definitely a behind the scenes shot from this poolhouse dream sequence...

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And if Alex does indeed jump to Quentin's side in the 129 minute version, it will be interesting because for some reason I've only seen stills of Claire and Tracy at Quentin's side.

You are correct.  As filmed, Claire and Tracy jump to Quentin's aide, while Alex stand up to confront Carlotta then chases after her when she runs off.

...and Yes, that photo you posted of the Quentin with candles on the previous page IS the shot I was talking about- when you can see it full frame, you can see the mason-work on the ceiling near the staircase.  It's from the scene where the group separates.  Wish we had more!

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The rooftop shot of Strack and Gabriel is a strange one, and it is a very precarious part of the roof.  Again, just shot for publicity.  There are shots in the film that are taken from the rooftop, so at some point a scaffold and some support boards must have been laid across it for access & safety, so that's probably how and why they got up there.  As there are some angles from the roof looking down at the hanging, these two must have popped up to take a look between shots.

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The staging of the Carlotta seance appearance is also handled slightly differently.  The final version opts to show the gallery balcony windows slowly open and she is visible listening to the last few lines of the seance.  When she begins to shout though, it cuts to the fast-zoom in to her face.  Interesting that they chose to go that way. 

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A few notes I can share... scenes 218-220 were indeed shot- they're included in a daily shooting report I have.  I have one photo of Quentin close-up with the candelabra, and you can tell from the background that they are at the bottom of the staircase, about to separate.

It was cut out of even Dan Curtis's director's cut, though, most likely just to tighten things up a bit.  The dialogue from this scene between Alex and Quentin was edited down and plays over the shot of Carlotta in the tower in the director's cut, and yes it exists.  It was replaced with the solo Selby "find Carlotta" voice over to help make sense of the chopped up ending in the short version.

One thing to keep in mind in many of the scenes, is that the dialogue in many of the scenes was all adjusted, tweaked, revised slightly on-set, which makes things play a little more naturally, but has been sheer hell from a dialogue re-looping standpoint because there's no document that exists which accounts for all the on-set changes.  Lots of trial and error and frustrations in the booth, I can tell you!  The basement/skeleton scene loss is a huge disappointment to me, and I believe that dialogue would have been significantly revised in filming, probably dropping the Laura laughing line and having some minimal lines of explanation to clarify that the skeleton is Charles, and he's lying atop Angelique's coffin, with her inside it.

The shot of the skeleton hanging from the tree was just on-set goofing around. I have the contact sheets from this shoot, and it's not supposed to be Angelique- it's Charles's skeleton and is dressed in his rotted shirt- that's why there's that shot of Selby standing next to it, as it's his character.  They were shooting publicity shots of Selby, and the crew just ties a rope to the skeleton and pulls it up off the ground to get the shots with Selby, then afterwards a few shots of it by itself in the tree.  I was thrilled to find that contact sheet, as it always appeared to be some shot of Angelique's body rotted to nothing and hanging there, and intriguing, but impossible scene to match to any of the scripts.

In the final filmed version of the Gerard fall to his death, Alex says, "Looks like the old Bangor local is gonna be running late tonight." Thankfully we have that audio as well.  His face is off-screen for the tail part, and if we didn't have the original recording, we would have looped it as "B&M" which would have been unfortunate.

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Calendar Events / Announcements '16 II / Re: Happy Birthday Darren Gross!
« on: December 05, 2016, 10:42:54 AM »
Thanks everyone!

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Happily all the above mentioned material (not the Grayson notes) is in the director's cut, ie: Alex and Claire running to help, Claire's line, Alex and Quentin interaction, etc.

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Thanks so much for the info, Darren.  [hall2_smiley]

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Thanks and you're welcome!

I haven't been able to get onto the board in awhile, and was unware of this huge thread, otherwise I would have commented as it rolled along.  I'l trawl through it over the next month or so and if I see any mysteries or questions I can answer, I'll do my best to chime in...