DARK SHADOWS FORUMS
General Discussions => Testing. 1, 2, 3... => Topic started by: Patti Feinberg on June 24, 2004, 01:06:42 PM
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Okay, first...if I 'click' on a cousins name, for days/weeks later, their name will be slightly bolder (capice?).
Second, I'm noticing that in a topic there will be a new tag; but, it will be stuff I've already read.
Case in point, yesterday, from home I read Vlad's response to Gerard's IChing; today at work (different day/different IP), it said new, but it was what I had already read.
(I had noticed this I thought a few days ago, but wasn't positive, so I didn't mention it.)
Patti
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Okay, first...if I 'click' on a cousins name, for days/weeks later, their name will be slightly bolder (capice?).
I'm not quite sure what you mean by "for days/weeks later," but whenever you pass your mouse cursor over any of the forum's links, they become brighter and bolder.
Second, I'm noticing that in a topic there will be a new tag; but, it will be stuff I've already read.
Case in point, yesterday, from home I read Vlad's response to Gerard's IChing; today at work (different day/different IP), it said new, but it was what I had already read.
That's happening from time to time (it happened to me for the first time yesterday). But remember, when I announced the conversion to this new system, I said:
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Also, keep in mind that this system is still in beta testing form. During our trial runs with it we didn't come across any problems, but that doesn't necessarily mean that there aren't any. ...
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if I 'click' on a cousins name, for days/weeks later, their name will be slightly bolder (capice?).
It's very subtle, but I've noticed it since the first SMF version, and it's any link on the forums, including those to boards and posts that you see in Who's Online, for example. But this isn't different than seeing links change colors on websites to indicate that you've visited them recently; cookies on your computer store information about what pages you've viewed. When these particular cookies expire, the links aren't bold anymore.
Cookies FAQ (http://www.cookiecentral.com/content.phtml?area=4&id=10) (I hear MB makes a mean chocolate chip. :P)
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I'm not quite sure what you mean by "for days/weeks later,"
It's very subtle, but I've noticed it since the first SMF version, and it's any link on the forums, including those to boards and posts that you see in Who's Online, for example.
Oh! You were talking about visited links. (http://www.dsboards.com/dsb05/Smileys/6184.gif)
But this isn't different than seeing links change colors on websites to indicate that you've visited them recently
Yes, on other sites the color change may be more dramatic, but unless the Webmaster intentionally codes links to remain the same color even after they've been visited, a change happens on every Web site. ;)
(I hear MB makes a mean chocolate chip. :P)
Soft, moist, and dripping with chocolate. ;D
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Soft, moist, and dripping with chocolate. ;D
Ohhhhhh! You're killin' me! (http://www.dsboards.com/dsb05/Smileys/bawling2.gif)
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(I hear MB makes a mean chocolate chip. :P)
Soft, moist, and dripping with chocolate. ;D
:o OMG...LMAO!! ;D
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DOES EVERYONE ELSE NOTICE THAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE ADDITIONAL SMILIES???
(act like they run everything for free in their spare time or something....yeesh!!) ;D
Patti
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Second, I'm noticing that in a topic there will be a new tag; but, it will be stuff I've already read.
Case in point, yesterday, from home I read Vlad's response to Gerard's IChing; today at work (different day/different IP), it said new, but it was what I had already read.
I could have been responsible for that. I'm not sure but this might have been a post that I modified several hours after I wrote it. I added to another post I had written and re-wrote one that I made to the I-Ching thread -- didn't realize that re-writing one's post later could potentially create problems from the moderators' perspective.
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I could have been responsible for that. I'm not sure but this might have been a post that I modified several hours after I wrote it. I added to another post I had written and re-wrote one that I made to the I-Ching thread -- didn't realize that re-writing one's post later could potentially create problems from the moderators' perspective.
I don't think Vlad's edit has anything to do with it. It's been happening to me, too, the last few days and it wasn't just Vlad's posts. So far it's just been 1 or 2 items a day, so it wasn't worth complaining about it, but I was thinking of asking about it if it continued.
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While we're questioning the new forum - I've been wondering about the number of posts. When the new forum was being prepared we were notified that some posts had been temporarily removed and so our totals were down.
I don't recall how many I had, but it was over 1000 and I think it might have been over 1100. After that notice, it was down in the 900s. It gradually made it's way back up to a little over 1000, but if all the old ones have been restored, presumably it should be higher.
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Second, I'm noticing that in a topic there will be a new tag
Come to think of it, I've never seen any indication as to whether a post is new or if a thread has a new post in it ... I think that's what you're describing. I haven't seen that on this forum since it was the Vantage Net site. I'd actually forgotten about that feature, which was kind of nice to have. Am I supposed to be seeing this?
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Patti, the additional smileys are unavailable at this time as reported earlier. If you quote any of the posts you're referring to-- recent posts that have smileys you don't see in the smiley listing-- you'll see that the smileys were posted as image links.
Come to think of it, I've never seen any indication as to whether a post is new or if a thread has a new post in it ... I think that's what you're describing. I haven't seen that on this forum since it was the Vantage Net site. I'd actually forgotten about that feature, which was kind of nice to have. Am I supposed to be seeing this?
Oh yes. :) For members, when a board has a new post, the diamond on the home page turns blue. The same goes for the child boards. And when a topic has a new post, a blue "new" tag" appears next to the title in the board listing. Clicking on that new tag will take you directly to the first unread message in the topic. The blue "new" tags in the new post itself, however, went out with YaBB SE.
I've noticed that how you access a post will affect whether or not these indicators disappear. If you're accessing the topics through a direct link, or the posts through "show unread posts" or "view the 10 most recent posts", the blue new post indicators are less reliable. I usually access posts through the board listings, and I've only seen a new tag reappear once, and it seems to be identical to the time Patti saw it and I can only assume it was due to a glitch. But if you're seeing this happen that frequently, Josette, I suspect it's because of the route you're taking to access the posts and recommend that you use the "mark topics as read" feature when your session is finished.
Also, if a post is moved, split, or merged by a moderator after you've already read it, the blue indicators will come back on because the system is reading these as brand new posts. These actions are probably happening a lot more than visitors realize. ;)
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I've been wondering about the number of posts. When the new forum was being prepared we were notified that some posts had been temporarily removed and so our totals were down.
I don't recall how many I had, but it was over 1000 and I think it might have been over 1100. After that notice, it was down in the 900s. It gradually made it's way back up to a little over 1000, but if all the old ones have been restored, presumably it should be higher.
All the posts have been restored except for the Members Archive, and no, it shouldn't be higher. But if we detail all the intricacies of our new system, there won't be anything left for members to discover on their own. 8)
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I usually access posts through the board listings, and I've only seen a new tag reappear once, and it seems to be identical to the time Patti saw it and I can only assume it was due to a glitch. But if you're seeing this happen that frequently, Josette, I suspect it's because of the route you're taking to access the posts and recommend that you use the "mark topics as read" feature when your session is finished.
I do go to the board listings, choose a board (Calendar Events, Current Topics, etc.), go to the "new" tag furthest down and work my way up. It was just the last 2 or 3 days when the first (least recent) post was one I had seen the day before. Perhaps those were instances that you referred to when the moderators made a change. I normally don't bother "marking as read" as I figure I've read them all and it will know!
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As to the number of posts, I really don't care, but I'd swear I was at least over 1000 and possibly 1100 before the changes, so I can't imagine why I'm just climbing over 1000 now.
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For members, when a board has a new post, the diamond on the home page turns blue. The same goes for the child boards. And when a topic has a new post, a blue "new" tag" appears next to the title in the board listing. Clicking on that new tag will take you directly to the first unread message in the topic. The blue "new" tags in the new post itself, however, went out with YaBB SE.
I see those features now, thanks. Haven't tried clicking on the "new" tag yet but am excited to try. ;D
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The occasional "new" on an old listing is still continuing. Yesterday there was a post by Midnite listed as new but I had read it the previous time.
Today the Current Talk X board indicated a new item, but when I checked, the most recent item was from more than a week ago.
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The occasional "new" on an old listing is still continuing. Yesterday there was a post by Midnite listed as new but I had read it the previous time.
That will continue to happen until we install a version of the forum's system in which it's been fixed. Presumably that will be the next release. But who knows? (http://www.dsboards.com/dsb05/Smileys/idontknow.gif)
Today the Current Talk X board indicated a new item, but when I checked, the most recent item was from more than a week ago.
That archive board was just created today and those posts were moved to it. As I've mentioned before:
I had assumed something had been moved to the archive recently, but all of these were definitely old posts that had regained their "new".
The "Members' Mausoleum Archive" and most of the boards in it were just created yesterday afternoon, and whenever old posts are moved to any newly created board they regain their "new" status.
So, those posts there should have had "new" tags. :) And there are still several more posts that will be moved to both Current Talk X and the newly created (over the weekend) Calendar Events / Announcements '04 I. ;)
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That archive board was just created today and those posts were moved to it. As I've mentioned before:
So, those posts there should have had "new" tags. :) And there are still several more posts that will be moved to both Current Talk X and the newly created (over the weekend) Calendar Events / Announcements '04 I. ;)
That make sense, except I would then expect all the posts to say new and only the last one did.
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That make sense, except I would then expect all the posts to say new and only the last one did.
Now, THAT IS interesting - and it's an important detail I didn't get from your previous post.
On this system I don't get the "new" icons for moved topics or the new posts indicator icon for the archive boards because I'm the one doing the moving, but I'd assumed (always dangerous ;)) that everyone else was still seeing them. However, I just experimented on the duplicate version of the forum that I have on my own computer by creating an archive board and moving several topics to it and then logging in under another ID - and none of the topics I'd moved showed "new" icons on the archive board - though the board itself did show the new posts indicator (as you had explained). Apparently, unlike YaBB SE, this new system doesn't show the "new" icons simply because topics have been moved to another board, and that's definitely an excellent improvement because it simplifies matters for all of us. :)
The only explanation I can come up with for why that one topic in Current Talk X had the "new" icon is that it was probably because of the same glitch that's occasionaly causing random topics to regain that icon. And thanks for adding the detail about only the one "new" icon because who knows when I might have otherwise realized improvements have been made in the topic moving tool? ;)
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Glad it helped - I almost didn't bother posting a reply!!
Actually, now that I think about it, I don't remember if the one item had a "new" on it or not. The board showed the new indicator and the last post was listed, so I assumed that that was the new item, but when I went there, it was more than a week old. So, at this point, I don't recall if there actually was a "new" tag or if I was just assuming it was that last post.
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Just thought I'd mention that occasionally I'll still have an item indicating "new" and it turns out to be something I read the previous day - it's usually just the one item and everything else really IS new and it's just every once in a while.
But today, there were 2 items indicated as "new" in Current Topics X and the first (oldest) of those was from July 31.
From one of the responses above, it seems this is something you have to work on someday, but thought I'd provide an update.
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occasionally I'll still have an item indicating "new" and it turns out to be something I read the previous day - it's usually just the one item and everything else really IS new and it's just every once in a while.
We've noticed that modified posts will regain a "new" tag for visitors who have already read it. If you've read a post and the "new" tag reappears it was probably edited, though you'd be hard pressed in most cases to notice the change because it's usually something as benign as a moderator fixing the code in a post or removing several lines of black space, and as you said it only happens once in a while.
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.... in most cases to notice the change because it's usually something as benign as a moderator fixing the code in a post or removing several lines of black space
This still never ceases to amaze me. You guys must be very tidy housekeepers - your homes must be immaculate.
-CLC ;D
(Who would hire a housekeeper AND a cook if she were rich)
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Apparently the main board knows even if the boards under it don't. I came back now to find 2 listings after my last post. One in each category. I looked at the new one in CE/A. Current Talk did NOT show a "new" indicator. When I went to the board, there was a "new" tag by one topic and the last post there was one I had read before.
So, while that board still put the "new" on it, the main topic heading knew not to!!!
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Current Talk did NOT show a "new" indicator. When I went to the board, there was a "new" tag by one topic and the last post there was one I had read before.
You may also have noticed that the post was half the size it was when you first opened it mostly due to removing several lines of blank space
So, while that board still put the "new" on it, the main topic heading knew not to!!!
Yes, the board listing does not light up for edits.