DARK SHADOWS FORUMS
General Discussions => Current Talk Archive => Current Talk '24 I => Current Talk '02 I => Topic started by: Raineypark on May 15, 2002, 06:45:17 PM
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Willie's at the Old House......All's right with the world!
Yep, have to agree with TLATKLS' opinion that John Karlen was the best actor in the bunch......not that I'm prejudiced or anything.....! ;)
We've had this conversation before, about Nancy Barrett's excellent portrayal of "crazy" as Millicent.....but John Karlen's "crazy" is SO excellent you have to wonder how he does it!! :o
Willie's shifts from docile and timid, to demented and overwrought, back to cringing and sly at the same time...all in a handful of scenes....are a superb showcase of the actor's talents, and abilities (IMHO). It also serves as a showing-UP, I'm afraid, of how narrow and single-note portrayals like Lang really are.
Best of all is just imagining how much FUN John Karlen MUST have had playing this lunatic who keeps shifting gears from pathetic and sweet to barking mad! [crazd]
GAWD...I'VE MISSED HIM!!!!!
Rainey, who's just wondering: Did anyone else who acted on this show ever win an Emmy, a Tony or an Academy Award?......Scholars?....I'm sure one of you has this info!
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Yep, have to agree with TLATKLS' opinion that John Karlen was the best actor in the bunch......not that I'm prejudiced or anything.....! ;)
I think he's marvelous too. :D
We've had this conversation before, about Nancy Barrett's excellent portrayal of "crazy" as Millicent.....but John Karlen's "crazy" is SO excellent you have to wonder how he does it!! :o
SPOILER...
I think David Selby was also wonderful as the spacey Quentin of 1995, driven over the edge by Gerard's ghost. ... Not that I'm prejudiced or anything, hee hee!!
GAWD...I'VE MISSED HIM!!!!!
Ah, Raineypark, it's fun seeing you so happy!
Rainey, who's just wondering: Did anyone else who acted on this show ever win an Emmy, a Tony or an Academy Award?
Donna McKechnie received a Tony for "A Chorus Line". I can't stand anything she did on DS, but even I have to admit that her stage credits are remarkable.
Grayson Hall was nominated for both a Golden Globe and Oscar for her supporting role in Night of the Iguana. Why isn't that fantastic movie on DVD yet? Sigh
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Willie's at the Old House......All's right with the world!
I'll second that for the second time today! [hello]
Willie's shifts from docile and timid, to demented and overwrought, back to cringing and sly at the same time...all in a handful of scenes....are a superb showcase of the actor's talents, and abilities (IMHO).
Well put Raineypark - and I completely agree!
CastleBee exits ::humming to self:: ain't no sunshine when (Willie's) gone and he's always gone too long anytime he goes away¢â‚¬¦[sun]
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Did anyone else who acted on this show ever win an Emmy, a Tony or an Academy Award?......Scholars?....I'm sure one of you has this info!
Besides the ones that have already been mentioned, Kate Jackson was nominated three times for an Emmy award (twice for Charlie's Angels, and for her guest appearance in the TV movie James at 15), but she won a Golden Globe for CA - and I seem to recall that Nancy Barrett was nominated for something or other for her work in the film Belizaire The Cajun, but I can't recall just what award that was (it was some type of independent film award).
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Hi, MB. Long time no talk. ;)
If single appearances on DS count, Marsha Mason (aka Audrey the Leviathan Vampire Girl) was nominated for 4 Oscars, 1 Emmy (for Frasier), and 4 Golden Globes, winning 2 GGs as best actress.
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Willie's at the Old House......All's right with the world!
Yep, have to agree with TLATKLS' opinion that John Karlen was the best actor in the bunch......not that I'm prejudiced or anything.....! ;)
We've had this conversation before, about Nancy Barrett's excellent portrayal of "crazy" as Millicent.....but John Karlen's "crazy" is SO excellent you have to wonder how he does it!! :o
Willie's shifts from docile and timid, to demented and overwrought, back to cringing and sly at the same time...all in a handful of scenes....are a superb showcase of the actor's talents, and abilities (IMHO). It also serves as a showing-UP, I'm afraid, of how narrow and single-note portrayals like Lang really are.
Best of all is just imagining how much FUN John Karlen MUST have had playing this lunatic who keeps shifting gears from pathetic and sweet to barking mad! [crazd]
GAWD...I'VE MISSED HIM!!!!!
Rainey, who's just wondering: Did anyone else who acted on this show ever win an Emmy, a Tony or an Academy Award?......Scholars?....I'm sure one of you has this info!
I''m pretty sure John Karlen won or was at least nominated for an Emmy for playing Harvey, the long suffering husband of Marybeth's ,on Cagney and Lacey
He is great and was always my favorite part of that show!!!
jennifer
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Ya know....I LOVE the IMDB! I learn so much from it!!!!
Clicked on awards and nominations for Joan Bennett...and guess what?????
She won an Emmy for Outstanding Achievement In Daytime Programming in 1968 for.......[/color]
[shadow=navy,left,300]DARK SHADOWS!!![batang][/shadow]
And Louis Edmonds received 3 Emmy nominations for Outstanding Actor In A Supporting Role in '84, '85, and '86...for All My Children!
Love that Louie playing Langley ;D!!![/color]
[shadow=purple,left,300]Always, Minja [wow][/shadow]
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Karlen is one actor I always admired on DS, but didn't fully appreciate until I saw as an adult.
The night he won the Emmy for CAGNEY AND LACEY, he was so thrilled, I cried for him. He deserved it, and I was delighted for him and for his ecstatic reaction and acceptance speech
I picked up my photos from the 2001 DS fest (better late than never), and there's a fantastic photo of me and Karlen with our arms around each other. I'm going to have it supersized!
Love, Robin
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1968 -- Nominated -- Emmy: Outstanding Achievement in Daytime Programming - Individuals Joan Bennett
Courtesy of imdb.com ;D
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1968 -- Nominated -- Emmy: Outstanding Achievement in Daytime Programming - Individuals Joan Bennett
Oooos...nevermind. Got a little carried away.
[shadow=purple,left,300]Always, Minja [heh][/shadow]
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Dear RaineyPark,
I've said it before and I'll say it again: I believe that the much-maligned Addison Powell won a Tony award for one of his Broadway stage performances. I'll check with my "good buddy," critic Donald Lyons, to ascertain the specific, award-winning performance of this wonderful actor and get back to you.
Sincerely,
Bob the Bartender, who wishes that all of Mr. Powell's detractors would recognize and appreciate his acting genius!
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Dear RaineyPark,
I've said it before and I'll say it again: I believe that the much-maligned Addison Powell won a Tony award for one of his Broadway stage performances. I'll check with my "good buddy," critic Donald Lyons, to ascertain the specific, award-winning performance of this wonderful actor and get back to you.
Bob, as much as it pains me to disagree with you, I searched the official Tony Awards website and Mr. Powell is not among the past winners. Here's the link--the only thing I can think of is that he may have used a different stage name at one point.
Tony Archives (http://www.tonys.org/archive/pastwinners/)
Luciaphil
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the only thing I can think of is that he may have used a different stage name at one point.
I wouldn't be surprised if he did change his name after Dark Shadows.
[evily]
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: I believe that the much-maligned Addison Powell won a Tony award for one of his Broadway stage performances. I'll check with my "good buddy," critic Donald Lyons, to ascertain the specific, award-winning performance of this wonderful actor and get back to you.
Bob the B,
Addison Powell won an Obie Award the first year they were given out for his off-Broadway role in "The Iceman Cometh" along with 2 other actors. It's listed here:
http://www.villagevoice.com/cgi-bin/obies/obies_year.cgi?year=1955-56
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I wouldn't be surprised if he did change his name after Dark Shadows.
[evily]
[lghy] But he didn't. He appeared in several films made after DS under Addison Powell - including that seminal mid-70s film, The Reincarnation of Peter Proud, as the pro shop clerk whom Michael Sarrazan questioned about his former self.
(I've never been able to look at Margot Kidder in quite the same way after having seen this film! [wink2] Powell also shares a scene with Kidder - but not, uh, THE scene.)
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Karlen is one actor I always admired on DS, but didn't fully appreciate until I saw as an adult.
I am the same way... If anyone doubts his talents, all you have to do is watch Wednesday's episodes. His talents shine through as he portray's a man who borders on insanity and confusion. He was a terrible man before he met Barnabus, but even at that, he went through extremely terrible experiences. Today, we saw a little of the old Willie, a little of an insane Willie and a very sad Willie. It was a tremendous performance on Karlen's part.
deron
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Wonder what part Powell played in "The Iceman Cometh"? I'd have to hope it was the drunk who spent 90% of the play passed out cold! ::)
Saw the Kevin Spacey production on Broadway a couple of years ago.....4 hours and 20 minutes of pure bliss.... :D
Rainey
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It just wasn't the same without him. I had forgotten that Willie was no longer under Barney's spell by this point in the show. I loved how Barney seems to have forgotten taking the cane to him....oh, and developing a conscience! Julia, God love her, had the perfect reaction.
Karlen's performance was absolutely dead on. He is a wonderful actor. I never watched Cagney and Lacey, so didn't even know he was on it until I became a more involved DS fan. Today's first show was one of the really great ones. Love the team of Barney, Willie and Julia. Her letting herself in the old house without knocking seems to say volumes about their present relationship.
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I''m pretty sure John Karlen won or was at least nominated for an Emmy for playing Harvey, the long suffering husband of Marybeth's ,on Cagney and Lacey
He is great and was always my favorite part of that show!!!
jennifer
You're right, Jennifer! According to the IMdb, he received a Best Supporting Actor Emmy nomination for Cagney and Lacey in 1987...pity he didn't win, I thought he was wonderful as Harvey.
In 1986 *and* 1987, he actually did win two Viewers for Quality Television awards (whatever those are -- I've never heard of them) for his role as Harvey (Best Supporting Actor in a Quality Drama Series).
His performances on DS were priceless, but I think the goofy Carl Collins in 1897 was my very favorite John Karlen role -- he was such a hoot. :)
Cheers,
Linda
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Dear RaineyPark, Luciaphil, and Midnite,
Alas, Addison Powell (my second favorite DS actor after Bob O'Connell) did not win the Tony award. However, Midnite, you are correct that Mr. Powell won the prestigious OBIE Award, Distinguished Performance For An Actor, for his 1956 performance in "The Iceman Cometh."
By the way, my "theater critic friend" has informed me that the great Thayer David won the same OBIE Award, Distinguished Performance For An Actor, in 1957, for his performance in "Oscar Wilde." So, I guess that Mr. Powell is in good company with his fellow Dark Shadows actor.
I still contend that Mr. Powell should have won the Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor for his memorable performance as the chillingly duplicitous CIA man in the spy thriller, "Three Days Of The Condor" with Robert Redford and Fay Dunaway.
Sincerely,
Bob the Bartender, who's still moved to tears every time I see Mr. Powell's heartfelt performance as the Fisherman from Gorton's of Gloucester.
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Linda wrote:
"You're right, Jennifer! According to the IMdb, he received a Best Supporting Actor Emmy nomination for Cagney and Lacey in 1987...pity he didn't win, I thought he was wonderful as Harvey."
Linda, John Karlen DID win the Emmy for Harvey Lacey in 1986....I remember his speech was a hoot!!....."I needed this like a working man needs a loaf of bread!"
Rainey
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Linda, John Karlen DID win the Emmy for Harvey Lacey in 1986....I remember his speech was a hoot!!....."I needed this like a working man needs a loaf of bread!"
Rainey
LOL and hooray! I am so glad this was an instance where the IMdb was WRONG! :D :D :D
Cheers,
Linda
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All I can add is John Karlen is Marvelous! I was thrilled when he won the emmy. I remember watching and routing for him.
Birdie--I have a soft spot for him. Hey, he was willing to give me a sip of his wine at the fest last year.
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LOL and hooray! I am so glad this was an instance where the IMdb was WRONG! :D :D :D
Cheers,
Linda
That is pretty funny that they were wrong Linda
and that it was in his favor!
He was great as Harvey and to tell you the truth the only reason I watched the show! I always found Mary Beth annoying but Harvey was really funny with her! he seems like quite a guy as well an an actor. :)
jennifer
Quess we can't always count on the Imdb LOL!