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I love the idea of Joseph Gordon-Levitt being in the film, both because he was in the primetime series and because he's become a fantastic actor.  I really want to see Joseph and Johnny work together, and this film is a no-brainer.  I hadn't thought of a specific role, much less Willie, but now that I think about it, it sounds perfect- it is a great role!

I also love the idea of a woman of color portraying Angelique.  It makes much more sense.  However, I've never been a fan of Halle Berry and am not sure about Beyonce.  Thinking back to Johnny's former co-stars (he often works with the same people again), Naomie Harris (Tia Dalma/Calypso in Pirates 2 and 3) seems perfect, to me.

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If I recall correctly, Perez Hilton got mixed up between DS and the Kathryn Bigelow film, for which I think Wahlberg's name was being floated around.  In general, don't trust Perez Hilton  [hall2_rolleyes]  [hall2_grin]

Also, Tim Burton is the master of the understatement and the deadpan attitude, and he is also often evasive. So don't worry if he doesn't gush too much- it's just his way.

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Snow White (this is still just a rumor, but I haven't heard it debunked yet)

Interestingly (and perhaps as a relief  [hall2_grin] ) this entry has now been taken off of Johnny's IMDb page.

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I agree with MB that things seem right on track now for the DS film.  Of course, things could still fall through, but I think an April start date is about as specific as we could hope for.  I'm also not too surprised we haven't heard any casting news yet (other than Johnny for Barn, of course!) but I imagine that after the New Year, tidbits about the cast will start to trickle through.  

I'm a little divided on the theory of Anne Hathaway as Vicky Winters; overall, I really like Anne, but I actually personally thought she was the weakest link in Alice In Wonderland.  Not that I thought that Alice was one of Burton's stronger films, anyway, but I found Anne's performance to be distracting and off the mark.  If she is indeed cast in DS, I will just hope for the best!

As to what Johnny could possibly do with his time between now and April, that is a question that we fans are certainly asking ourselves right now  [hall2_grin]   Some known/possible activities:

Tourist premieres and promotion (Dec.)
Rango premieres and promotion (Feb.)
Kathryn Bigelow film- I'm not sure if that's definitely ruled out, now, or not
Snow White (this is still just a rumor, but I haven't heard it debunked yet)
Keith Richards documentary that Johnny is directing- I'd like to see him use this time to get this done!
21 Jump Street film cameo- Johnny kinda sorta seemed amenable to doing this
maybe just spending some time with Vanessa and the kids?  [hall2_smiley]

So there are some possibilities but we'll see if any of them come to pass.  As long as DS stays on track!

Cathy

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At least one Depp forum did copy and paste, so I'm sorry they didn't adhere to the request (and I couldn't post to ask that they do, because I am not a member at that particular forum (long story  [hall2_rolleyes]  )  At least they did give the link, as well.

As to the idea of being out of his own time, I like that angle very much, but I just hope they don't overdo it, or it might get gimmicky after awhile.  I just have a laugh every time I think about poor Barn behind the wheel- wasn't it he who hit Grant Douglas?  [hall2_grin]

Cathy

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Wow, great interview, thanks so much for sharing!  I've taken the liberty to give the link at the Depp forum that I participate in, and hopefully the word will spread to other Depp forums as well.  I've specifically included your request not to cut and paste the interview.  Jim's words sound very encouraging, and I'm psyched for this film!! 

(I only wish that *I* could also serve as a "consulting producer" for the film-- don't we all?!   [hall2_grin]  )

Cathy

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Gothik, this is my concern too, but more because of Tim than because of Johnny.  I know a lot of folks perceive Johnny's characters as "offbeat" and even loveable misfits, but he can be very dark when it's called for.  Check out the ends of Secret Window and The Astronaut's Wife (though the latter is a pretty bad movie), or his cameo as a prison guard in Before Night Falls (in which he also has a totally separate cameo as a transvestite!)  Even in Blow, Donnie Brasco, The Libertine (one of his best performances ever!) and Public Enemies, among others, he plays it pretty straight and dramatic.  And then there is Sweeney Todd, probably his darkest character yet, which I hope will come close to the tone that Johnny uses for Barnabas.

As for Tim, I try to keep reminding myself that Tim directed Sweeney Todd.  I also think the atmosphere in Sleepy Hollow would be amenable to DS.  But after seeing Alice In Wonderland this year and not being too thrilled with it, I'm really hoping that Tim can do DS with the edge it deserves.

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Oops, sorry for the double post, but I don't think this has been mentioned yet.  For what it's worth (and we know we must always take IMDb with a grain of salt!), DS has now been taken off of Johnny's "projects in development" list and is on his Filmography list proper, as "pre-production."  

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000136/

I know that's just a formality, but I always like to see changes in status  [hall2_cool]

(BTW I have no idea what's going on with that Snow White thing- it seems like just a rumor, but strangely, it hasn't been debunked yet.  We'll see!)

Cathy

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just as long as they don't Stake ole "Barney" in the film. like "DC" did in the original "DS" film. what do you think?

That's a really interesting issue.  I wonder if they thought carefully about this, because staking Barn would make it much harder to do any future DS films (not that they're necessarily thinking about that, but still... [hall2_grin]  )  I am torn-- part of me thinks that it would seem an inevitable outcome for a stand-alone story (as opposed to a serial franchise).  I wouldn't want there to be a Hollywood-ish "happy ending".  Also, a pretty good number of Johnny's characters have been killed off at the end of his films, so he's certainly not averse to it happening.  That said, if they could find a way to make an ending that is tragic, yet might still leave a door open, so to speak (or is that an open coffin?  [hall2_wink] ) I'd be up for that.  Hmm.

Cathy

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B.Collins, it's not a stupid question.  At the same time, you have to take all the info that you get from IMDb, blogs, entertainment websites, etc. with a grain of salt.  Not all of the projects are real- many are just silly rumors, such as Johnny being The Riddler in the next Batman movie, which *still* keeps popping up.  Even when an upcoming project is real or at least a real possibility, you have to take into account that many are years in the future, so realize that his agent is thinking of his longterm career and wants him to have staying power.  Also, the agent would still be thinking of possibilities in case something falls through, as so often happens in Hollywood.  Johnny hasn't necessarily "signed on" for most of these possibilities, and the same is probably true of Will Smith, though I'm less familiar with Smith's career.  Finally, at least on Johnny's list, many of the titles listed on IMDb as "in development" are ones that his production company is developing, that he may serve as a producer on but won't star in.  His career as a producer is just beginning, and many of the titles that his production company has options to produce are just possibilities- some of them may never even get developed.  The same may be true of Smith, too- I don't really know if he does any producing.

As far as Johnny's titles on IMDb:

The Thin Man- sounds like he will produce and star, but this is years into the future- there isn't even a screenplay

Wild Roses, Tender Roses- this one is probable. He is a friend of the producer, Emir Kusterica, and was originally slated to film this in early 2011, but it was pushed back a year or so, in part to make DS filming possible

My American Lover- Johnny and his real life love, Vanessa Paradis, want to star in this, but it is probably a couple of years off. I don't think there is a screenplay yet

Caliber- it has been said that Johnny would only produce, not star in this one

Affected Provincial's Companion- ditto

Inamorata- ditto

Dark Shadows- well, hopefully it will film in April!  [hall2_smiley]

Rex Mundi- I do think he wants to star in this one, but it's been in development for years, and I haven't heard any news on it in awhile.  It's probably still a few years off

The People's Act of Love- I think he'd produce but not star

The Lone Ranger- he would star in this, and it may come up fairly soon, as I think there has just been another screenwriter hired (similar to what happened with DS)

The 83rd Annual Academy Awards- huh?  I don't know why this is on there  [hall2_smiley]

In the Hand of Dante- I think he would only produce, not star

Happy Days- ditto

Shantaram- yikes, he wanted to produce and star in this one, and it almost got started 2 or 3 times, but it is in turnaround now.  I don't know if this film will ever get made at this point, and if it does, Johnny may no longer be attached

Sleeping Dogs- this is the Kathryn Bigelow film that seems unlikely now that Johnny has a specific start for DS, but it doesn't seem to have been officially ruled out yet

To add to IMDb's list, Johnny is still planning to produce (and probably appear in) a Keith Richards documentary, which filmed in part early this year.  I don't know what the status is of that.  

Hope this helps, and hope it wasn't too much boring info.  Just wanted to convey that such a long list isn't really that long when taken item by item.

Edited to add-- wow, I just realized that IMDb has finally taken off that stupid Incredible Mr. Limpet rumor, which I have never seen or heard credible evidence for.  Thank goodness!  [hall2_grin]

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So, before anyone sees this and has a heart attack, there is this blog which seems to disagree with my confidence in Ms. Finke:

http://www.pajiba.com/think_pieces/nikki-finke-johnny-depp-and-why-the-offer-story-is-such-bullsht-the-farce-of-the-trade-news-game.php

All I can say is that while I see the point of rushing to be first with a scoop, and Ms. Finke certainly does seem to like to do that, to me, she does not do so recklessly.  I'm unfamiliar with the other blogger, and while he/she may be right, to me, it looks a little like jealousy or an axe to grind.  At any rate, as you say, MB, Hollywood Reporter picking up on this story certainly does lend more credibility to it, so for now, I am cautiously thrilled to bits!

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One more point, since I guess I used up my chance to modify my post  [hall2_wink]  Regarding delays, I don't think a couple of months is a big deal at all.  Perhaps Tim needs more time with Frankenweenie, or perhaps Johnny will shoehorn the Bigelow project in, after all.  Also, Johnny has a film (Rango) coming out in early March, for which he will probably have to make time to attend the premiere(s) and do press junkets and the like.  Or it could simply be a matter of arranging the studio, or other things that we don't even know about. 

I'm stoked!!   [hall2_cool]

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As I mentioned a week or so ago, Nicki Finke/deadline.com is reliable.  She does sometimes speculate, but if she does she usually makes that clear (For instance, you can see that she is hedging when it comes to Johnny's other possible project with Kathryn Bigelow).  If she posts something this definitive as an "exclusive", then I believe she has solid sources.  She does not make things up-- she is not akin to the crazy bloggers and gossip sites that we've all seen spreading silly rumors and gotten so annoyed by.  Even my friend in the entertainment industry (no connections to Johnny or DS) sent me this link this afternoon.

Of course, we can wait for a confirmation from Variety or Tim or Johnny, but this is as close to definite as it can get without that.  Personally, I'm crossing my fingers but I'm thrilled by this news  [hall2_grin]

Cathy

P.S. just to add to MB's remarks, in retrospect, it seems to me that things were progressing but still tentative during the time that August was involved.  Quite possibly some of the delays were due to trying to work out disagreements with the screenplay.  It seems that as soon as they brought in Seth Grahame-Smith, things progressed much more organically and smoothly from there.  This all sounds great because it means they must be much more confident and prepared now, and that can only mean good things!!

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I don't think I'll believe the Feb. start totally until it's reported in Variety or Hollywood Reporter, or comes from Johnny's or Tim's mouth.  That said, Nicki Finke, who runs deadline.com, is usually pretty accurate, and she has connections and gets a lot of inside info. 

In other words, Variety>>deadline.com>>Entertainment Weekly>>blogs or gossip mags.

keeping' my fingers crossed...

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Had no idea The Thin Man was being remade, will Burton direct this as well?

The report is that Johnny would like The Thin Man to be directed by Rob Marshall, who is currently directing Pirates 4 (he also directed Nine).  As MB says, I think this one is only in its earliest stages- they don't even have a scriptwriter for it yet- so it will be several years off.

Hmm, hadn't heard a peep about Helena as Dr. Hoffman.  For now, I'm going to assume that it's just speculation until/unless I hear it from Helena, Tim, or Johnny.  I'm dying for possible cast news, though   [hall2_grin]

Edited to add- just had a thought as I was posting... Helena may be doing interviews soon for Harry Potter, since that is coming out soon, so it'd be interesting if she might say something at that time.

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