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I don't think that filming has started yet, or at least Johnny is not filming yet.  There have been reports that Johnny is/has been in London but they were all suspect- and had some contradictions with each other.  Plus, there was an unrelated rumor claiming that he was in New Orleans earlier in the week, filming his cameo for the 21 Jump Street movie.

Today, though, there is photo evidence that Johnny is in Chicago.  He apparently taped an interview with Oprah and then visited a music store where he bought a guitar.  Here is the report with a photo:

Sighting: Johnny Depp at Chicago Music Exchange store

(We also heard today that he will be taping an interview with Larry King- don't know where or when that'll happen, though).

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For what it's worth, Helena describes her role as "only a small part."

I'm big on the Big Society, says Helena

(scroll down to near the end, just above the Charlie Sheen photo)

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And I stand by mine.  My post was WELL within reason, and if you don't like what I say, jimbo, then so be it. 

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I honestly don't think there is anything diabolical involved.  Variety is not sitting around just waiting for every piece of information for DS alone- it has hundreds of other projects that it is reporting on.  It gets what information it is given to publish, and if it's incomplete to us, it's because as MB said, it is because that is all the info they have at present.  It doesn't mean it won't publish more later.  I don't think the writers at Variety are sweating it as much as we are!

There could be any number of reasons why Bella's character wasn't named, from either that they felt the main point was to name the actress and the type of role she would play, not thinking this character's name was necessarily important (YES, I know it's important to us diehards, but to most of the film world it is just a detail), or that she will possibly be a character that is neither Vicki nor Maggy and the name thus not important right now.  For The Rum Diary, I remember it was awhile before all the characters werie named, and it ended up having to do with one main character being omitted and others being combined- it took awhile before the eventual names were listed.  Another possibility was that somehow the name could be a spoiler of some sort.  For Sweeney Todd, one character's name was changed a couple of times in news reports because it was a spoiler (if you've seen the movie or the show, you know what I mean).  In this case, it could have to do with a flashback to another/dual role (Josette?)  

Let's try to be objective here, the filming hasn't even started yet- there is plenty of time to learn all the details.  Heck, just yesterday I was looking at the Rango listing on IMDb, and I saw that Johnny is playing Rango and "Lars".  Who the heck is Lars??  And it's less than 2 weeks before the film is released, if "Lars" even turns out to be legit. Just trying to point out that it's not that unusual for not all the info to be immediately known.  

All this said, of course, I can't wait to know the answer!  [snow_laugh]

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Didn't Bob Cobert recently say that he was going to consult or collaborate on the movie, even though he is happily retired?  And I do seem to remember Elfman's name coming from somewhere in addition to IMDb.  It's not a stretch- there are very few Burton movies that Elfman did *not* do the music for (Ed Wood and Sweeney Todd are the only ones I can recall).

Re. a blond Frankenstein monster, this probably doesn't count, but Rocky Horror immediately came to mind  [snow_cheesy]

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I was SO thrilled to hear earlier today about Michelle's (and Helena's) possible casting.  I hadn't heard Michelle's name mentioned at all previously, but as soon as I heard the name today, I thought it was a perfect choice.  A lot of the names that have been bandied about by fans have been awesome, highly respected actresses who I definitely could've really seen playing Liz... 15 or 20 years ago.  That is to say, many of fan's choices have frankly been too old.  I think that Michelle is just the right age, and she is very beautiful and has a strong presence.  And I love that she's worked with Burton before and thus is part of his "family", so to speak.  

As for Helena, I'm not surprised, LOL.  Perhaps she was just not confirming it until the time was right, but I dunno, it seems possible that it just hadn't been decided for sure.  She DOES get other acting jobs besides in Burton's movies  [snow_cheesy]  At any rate, after seeing The King's Speech and rewatching Sweeney Todd recently, I can definitely see her as Julia.

As for Depp's remarks about staying close to Frid, maybe it's just me but I wasn't taking that to be 100% literal- more that he wants to achieve the same sort of tone with the character than doing an outright impersonation or anything.  I know (and fear!) that DS diehards will be dissecting his performance and I only hope that he does justice to the character, and I am feeling pretty good about that!!

And yeah, they can easily stick a wig on Jackie or otherwise tweak his look for the film.  I can't quite remember but I'm pretty sure he had hair for Watchmen (when he wasn't wearing a mask) and Shutter Island, too.  BTW I loved him in Human Target and watched the show mainly for him (okay, a little also for Chi McBride, who I loved from Pushing Daisies), but I confess that I stopped watching this year when they changed the format of the show so much.  

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Ah, great, I just saw this MTV interview in my news alerts, and I scampered over here to make sure it'd been posted here.  As always, jimbo's got it covered!  I love hearing Johnny speak with such respect about Frid, and I also love hearing that he feels that Barnabas is "poetic".  You can tell that he really feels very deeply about the character!

Until this snippet, I'd been a little bummed that we haven't heard more talk about DS yet in these press interviews (though it's still early- the interviews have taken place over the last few days, but sometimes it takes a few days for them to trickle out).  However, remember that Gore at least will only be able to talk about The Lone Ranger, since he's not involved with DS.  So hopefully when some more one-on-one interviews with Johnny come out, hopefully they'll be asking him more about DS.

So, it's interesting that MTV says that Bella is Victoria, though they still may just be repeating what they've read...

Cathy

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I am probably a broken record about this by now, but IMHO Colleen Atwood is a goddess!!  I can't wait to see how her costumes will compare to those that were supplied by Ohrbach's   [snow_cheesy]

By the way, just a little heads-up-- the press junkets have now started for Johnny's film Rango, which is coming out in 3 weeks.  We've heard that some occurred today and will also be going on during the weekend.  I haven't started seeing any actual interviews yet, but I imagine they'll start to appear imminently.  Just a guess, but I am expecting/hoping for Johnny to speak more about DS now than he did while promoting The Tourist, just because the start of filming is getting closer now.  Hope we'll get to hear some good tidbits from him!!

Cathy

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Cool to hear more location scouting news/rumors!  It'll be so interesting to see the "look" of the film.  I actually was hoping that they would do some exterior shots in Maine or at least New England, but I think that as long as the look and tone of the film are great, that's all that matters.

Gotta point out the article describes Depp as married.

They've been married for years haven't they?  The wife and kids live in France...

Johnny and Vanessa Paradis have been together since 1998 but are not legally married.  They have often said that they consider themselves married but that they don't really need the piece of paper.  They don't rule out doing it someday, and so every few years, a new rumor pops up and ya never know, but honestly, they seem to be very happy just the way they are.   Johnny was briefly married at age 20 and maybe has the idea that the piece of paper doesn't mean it's gonna work out!

BTW it's probably TMI but they have homes in both LA and France (and probably other places, plus an island in the Caribbean), and the kids attend school in LA.

Cathy

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Johnny has also worked on two films at once :)  I don't know the exact logistics, but roughly, he worked on Chocolat in about June-July of 2000, and on From Hell from around June-Sept (and going straight on to the ill-fated The Man Who Killed Don Quixote right after that!)    In Chocolat, Johnny wore his natural long hair in a ponytail, and in From Hell he wore a (shorter) wig, because the latter film took place in Victorian England.  He was the lead in From Hell, but only 4th or 5th billed in Chocolat, so not being the lead in both films probably helped him to manage to do both simultaneously.

He also did a cameo for a French film, Happily Ever After, while he was in the middle of filming Secret Window.  That might've only taken a day or so, though.

I think that Christian Bale was working on something else (Terminator?? I forget) during part of Public Enemies filming, but he wasn't required to be present for the whole ~4 month Public Enemies shoot.

As for Eva, I'm sure they will figure out how to fit in the two shooting schedules, otherwise I don't think they would offer her the part!  Unless Angelique is in every scene, they can film other scenes around her other schedule.

I'm not paying attention to most of the crew's names as you're posting them, MB, but I appreciate you posting the info anyway, because as you say, it's just cool in general to see the project shaping up and various different positions getting filled!

Cathy

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Re. the Johnny diet rumor, I wouldn't put too much stock in that.  It is a tabloid report, and we are constantly hearing complete fabrications, such as the recent rumor that he bought a place in Venice (eventually denied by his publicist).  IF Johnny wants to shed a few pounds (and I'm not saying that he does), it would probably just be to return to his usual weight- he admitted to "putting on a few pounds" for The Tourist, and was probably still a bit thicker for Pirates.  Still, he has never considered himself to be a real "method" actor, and has never done the extreme weight fluctuations that Christian Bale has done.  We've seen several paparazzi shots from within the past week, and he is looking very healthy and fit.

Re. Jackie Earle Haley, I did see Little Children, and thought he was amazing in that, walking a fine line between being despicable and sympathetic (didn't he get an Oscar nomination for that one?).  I have really loved him in so many things: Breaking Away, Watchmen, Human Target (TV show that I watched several episodes of).  I'm pretty psyched about his casting.

Re. Eva Green, I don't know much about her but I remember thinking she was pretty hot in Casino Royale.  I'll bet she could be a fiery Angelique!

Re. the comedy aspect, I hope I am right in that I am still envisioning an atmosphere along the lines of Sleepy Hollow or Sweeney Todd, where there are some funny lines, but nothing slapstick or overtly knee-slapping comedy.  Both films were definitely able to hold a menacing vibe.

Re. Helena Bonham Carter, I also vaguely seem to recall something about her denying she'd be in DS, but I can't swear to that, and I suppose I wouldn't be totally shocked if she did get a role, lol. 

I'm hoping to continue hearing more casting news- it seems like now is the time when the cast will start to fall into place  [snow_smiley]

Cathy

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Good points, Petofi!!

Also, I am recalling the early days when Willie was coming on to (and being rather threatening towards) all the pretty young gals, and I'm thinking that Willie being a little older will only enhance the sleazebag/gross-out factor.  So yeah, I'm up for Jackie as Willie, for sure!

Cathy

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Hmm, I'm not really aware that there is any obligation on a filmmaker's part to hold open auditions for a particular subset of their roles, though of course oftentimes the more minor roles are cast that way.  Even when they are, I think it's usually pretty hard for us outside the industry to know many details-- as a Depp fan, the only casting calls I usually hear about are extras for films like Pirates or Public Enemies, but not for the main roles.

I *love* the idea of Jackie playing Willie.  True, he's not a young man-- I just looked him up, and he'll be 50 this year.  On the other hand, some were tossing Steve Buscemi's name around as a possible Wilie, and Steve is several years older.  I don't really think of Willie as having to be a particular age.  He's just a thug who gets more than he bargained for when he decides to do some grave-robbing  [snow_wink]  I think it could work very well.  Jackie is great at playing thugs, but I always remember how sweet his character is in Breaking Away, so I can definitely see him also being the meeker, more submissive Willie.

I only saw a few articles (MTV and a few others, saying that Bella would play Vicki, so I didn't know that Variety was reporting the character as a waitress.  (I tried to access the Variety article, and I was blacked out, so thanks for that info, MB).  If she *is* a waitress, don't forget that the characters in the movie may not be identical to the ones we know- you never know if they will alter them or even combine some characters together, so I will keep an open mind about that.  (Off topic but relevant- for The Rum Diary, which is also co-produced by Johnny, a few characters from the novel are combined and one is omitted altogether for the movie version.  Some are upset about this, but since I haven't read the novel I'm not sure of how the changes impact the story, but obviously they felt that they could tweak it to make it more amenable to a film screenplay.  So something like this could certainly happen in the case of DS, too).

Anyway, I was SO excited, after working overtime tonight and returning home late, that we're finally starting to hear some casting news!!!

Cathy

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A doozie of a nightmare!

Oh dear  [snow_wow]  Ya know, Johnny did say in interviews that he's afraid of clowns, but... nah... this just CAN'T be the plot of the movie   [snow_tongue]   Anyway, no offense or anything, MB, but I hope they come up with something a little better  :D

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Wow, awesome news!! 

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