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Title: article about DS mentioning GH & TD as "dirty gypsies"?
Post by: Julia99 on February 11, 2006, 03:50:09 AM
Does anyone remember a rather recent article, i think from an online magazine that was talking about the show and noted how amusing it was to watch Grayson and Thayer playing dirty gypsies?  If so, got the link?
Title: Re: article about DS mentioning GH & TD as "dirty gypsies"?
Post by: Patti Feinberg on February 12, 2006, 02:32:33 AM
I just did a search of here, and I didn't see any dirty gypsies, except yours Julia.

Have a good weekend,

Patti
Title: Re: article about DS mentioning GH & TD as "dirty gypsies"?
Post by: Midnite on February 12, 2006, 02:43:55 AM
Yep.  From http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=12214:

But perhaps the most juicy bit of recasting (if you have not already guessed, Shadows used existing company members for multiple roles to keep the constantly colliding planes of existence realistic and reliable within the show) was turning the cosmopolitan Grayson Hall and the robust Renaissance man Thayer David into a couple of smelly, thieving gypsies. As Magda and Sandor, they provide untold moments of mirth with their broad accents and even more amusing mannerisms. Each actor looks like they are having the time of their life in these "alternative" roles and their obvious energy spikes an already high bit of camp into psycho-surreal melodrama. ...
Title: Re: article about DS mentioning GH & TD as "dirty gypsies"?
Post by: petofi on February 13, 2006, 09:43:25 PM
This recasting was always among my favorites, although almost anything TD did gets my nod as a delicious foray into character acting.  When I reviewed the Sandor/Magda episodes in the early 90s, when they came out on MPI video for th first time, I was delighted to see these two chewing the scenery.  It is obvious they really enjoyed the roles and playing off of one another!  As for "smelly gypsies," it seems that reviewer is treating the poor maligned Gypsy the same way the writers did back in the 60s.  I don't know how he/she can tell how they smell, perhaps they were sniffing the DVD to get the effect??!  Most likely TD and GH smelled of Gypsy Olive greasepaint and hairspray for those incredibly flamboyant wigs they were wearing!

Petofi
Title: Re: article about DS mentioning GH & TD as "dirty gypsies"?
Post by: Julia99 on February 15, 2006, 02:04:26 AM
This recasting was always among my favorites, although almost anything TD did gets my nod as a delicious foray into character acting.  When I reviewed the Sandor/Magda episodes in the early 90s, when they came out on MPI video for th first time, I was delighted to see these two chewing the scenery.  It is obvious they really enjoyed the roles and playing off of one another!  As for "smelly gypsies," it seems that reviewer is treating the poor maligned Gypsy the same way the writers did back in the 60s.  I don't know how he/she can tell how they smell, perhaps they were sniffing the DVD to get the effect??!  Most likely TD and GH smelled of Gypsy Olive greasepaint and hairspray for those incredibly flamboyant wigs they were wearing!

Well Grayson's grandmother was a Romanian or Hungarian gypsy --the story changes a bit depending on who tells it but there is always the "gypsy traded for two oxen in marriage" element .. .and Grayson didn't seem to mind . .. of course maybe no one called her a "smelly gypsy" to her face. . .
Title: Re: article about DS mentioning GH & TD as "dirty gypsies"?
Post by: petofi on February 17, 2006, 05:44:38 PM
I know that Joan Bennet wore Jungle Gardinia perfume, which could be overpowering if you wore too much - Maybe GH wore "Gypsy Moon Poppy" or some other equally unignorable fragrance as Magda! ;D

Petofi
Title: Re: article about DS mentioning GH & TD as "dirty gypsies"?
Post by: MagnusTrask on February 22, 2006, 12:39:20 AM
Yeah, the "smelly" comment does seem prejudiced and a throwback to previous decades.   But then again, baths might have been difficult or a royal pain amongst a caravan of wagons.      Or fun, depending on level of immodesty.    Imagine hauling the hot water.

I don't know what I think about a modern writer commenting.     Sure, we may bathe more now than most groups of people did in the past, but we have to bathe more.    Most people don't know it, only Environmental Illness patients like me, but people use half a dozen artifically-perfumed bathroom products, then that combines with sweat, then artifically-perfumed deodorant is added to the cocktail.     A big part of why humans stink is that cocktail.       It's perfume residues in mainstream detergents, too, and other things.

Man-made perfumes added to products are the biggest factor creating Environmental Illness (Multiple Chemical Sensitivities) in people.   They're the first thing you react to once you get EI (MCS).    And a lot of those products could be avoided in the first place.   There's more unscented stuff out there to buy all the time.   Some really isn't, but I'm veering off-topic enough as it is.     I can talk about this somewhere else (where?) if anyone knows someone who might have EI.     MCS/EI wrecks people's lives, so if you were wondering, yes, it's a serious thing.

Magda could probably stand to have her mouth washed out with soap occasionally, I'm guessing.   All that cursing.