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I don't know that it's so much that they're "keeping it secret" (though that could be true, too) as that they simply don't feel obligated to give progress reports about something that is still under development.  We already know that John August is writing the script and that as things stand now, Tim Burton is directing.  That is pretty good info for now.  I would love a hard confirmation from Johnny himself that he will star as Barnabas and that he hopes to bring something cool to the part.  But other than that, there's probably not much else to tell at this point.  Whatever other preliminary work they may be doing right now- I dunno, scouting locations?  Designing costumes?  could probably change drastically if they decide to change the script from whatever August is writing right now.   All kinds of things might fall through or change completely from the original plans. So, I think it's pretty normal that we're only hearing things in bits and pieces.  That said, if we do ever get to hear more, that'd be icing on the cake!

Cathy

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Again, there are always a lot of rumors about Johnny appearing in upcoming movies, and only a small fraction will really come true.  Of current rumors, my odds for whether they'll happen, at least any time soon (these are only my own feelings and not based on any inside knowledge}:

-Mad Hatter/Alice In Wonderland: 90%.  The rumors have been strong even before the recent press; I just have a feeling about this one.  But I think this would only be a small role.
-Lindsay/Shantaram: 75%.  Someone who claims to be involved in this production has posted to IMDb that Johnny still intends to star in the film.  The previous comments by the Infinitum Nihil representative were misquoted or taken out of context.  That said, there's still been no news on this film in awhile, but it WAS going to be his next project.
-Barnabas/Dark Shadows: 70%.  This is a solid project; it's just a matter of when it might happen.
-Toby/The Man Who Killed Don Quixote: 15%. Terry Gilliam is being optimisitc to think he can get this film together any time soon.  Could happen, though.
-Paul Kemp/Rum Diary: 10%.  Johnny wants to do this, but I think the film is jinxed, and nearly everyone thinks he's getting too old to play the character
-Riddler/Batman sequel: 5%.  Not impossible but I think this one was just made up
-Tommy Lee/Tommy Lee biopic: 0%.  Tommy Lee's wishful thinking.  No way would this ever happen.

Johnny is not filming now and he has no films coming out this whole year.  He is publicity shy as it is, so there aren't likely to be any major interviews until next year, when The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus and Public Enemies come out.  So, chances that anyone will be able to quote him about Dark Shadows are pretty sliim right now, unless we're lucky.  Tim Burton might be more likely to speak about DS if he gets interviewed about Alice.  Remember that regardless of Johnny's itinerary, if Burton is really going to direct, his schedule is going to have to be free, too.  And directors often need a larger chunk of time than actors (if they're involved in editing and other post-production).

'Course, it'd be great if the studios or Johnny's publicist could just throw us a bone  [ghost_smiley]

Cathy

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Oh yeah, they'd much rather report something incorrect than nothing at all.  And then later they can always report a correction, and get twice the attention  [ghost_wink]

This isn't relevant to DS, but this sort of thing goes on all the time regarding Johnny in general-- for instance, marriage rumors and house-hunting rumors crop up every couple of months.  Goes with the territory :)

Anyway, Entertainment Weekly is reporting that the Mad Hatter rumor is "confirmed" by a "very well-informed source."
http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2008/08/johnny-depp.html 
At least EW is a step or two more reliable than Contact Music, but it's still no Variety announcement.  Since they'll be starting to film soon, I'm guessing that an announcement would have to come pretty soon.

I still wish there would just be some kind of official status report on DS, even if they only said that it's still in the early planning stages.

Cathy

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Apparently his appeal is not only with adults but teen and tween girls

Now, that's an understatement!   [ghost_grin]  Yes, there are LOTS of teens/tweens on the Depp message boards, and many of them convinced their parents to take them to Sweeney Todd.  If the families were into Sondheim/musicals, it was a pretty easy sell.  Realize also that even if they couldn't see the movie, they could've voted for Johnny anyway.

About The Man Who Killed Don Quixote, Gilliam does seem pretty sure about filming starting before summer.  But bear in mind that he's been trying to get this movie restarted for 8 years.  He *always* sounds confident that it's about to start filming.  In fact, he blamed the Pirates sequels for taking Johnny's time away from filming Quixote; never mind that he didn't yet have the rights back to make the film.  The latest article also implies that Gilliam intends to rewrite the script, but doesn't make it sound like that's completed yet.  All to say, the man tends to blow hot air sometimes.  That said, Johnny is on record as saying "I'm in, as soon as Terry says the word."

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I tried to reply last night, but was having connection problems and I think my post got eaten up :)   Well, I don't think there is any real credibility behind the Batman rumor.  It's not impossible, but so far, that rumor has only been on the worst gossip sites such as Contact Music.  I'm not even totally sure about the Mad Hatter rumor, but at least that one seems more logical.  By the way, there's another one floating around- rocker Tommy Lee also wants Johnny to play him in a biopic  [ghost_cheesy]   If you follow the Depp rumors for awhile you'll realize there are probably at least a dozen silly rumors a year, in addition to the more solid ones.

Cathy

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My interpretation is that the Infinitum Nihil representative was clear when he said that Johnny would only be doing Rex Mundi for them. Again that is just how I interpreted his words.

That's how I interpreted his words, too!  It's just that before this, to my knowledge there hasn't even been an inkling that he might not star in Shantaram, so I am still wondering if somehow I'm understanding the IN guy wrong (or if his words might've been transcribed wrong).  I guess we'll find out sooner or later!

As to the dig at the DS production values, I didn't interpret that in a mean-spirited way- he almost seemed to be saying that the boom mics in the shot and the wobbly sets (maybe he saw some of those scenes with the tombstones shaking back and forth  [ghost_wink] ) were part of the show's charm.  And heck, this is a lot of why *we* like the show too- I love the bloopers tapes and all the fun stories from the cast!  Still, it might've been nice if he'd also added something about the tight schedule and tighter budget, and what they were able to accomplish with what they had.  But oh well, it was only a small part of the interview so I guess they can't talk about everything!

As to JP, well, I have been out of the loop in recent years but remember the guy from the 90's and the 2 fests I attended back then.  Sounds like the same ol' fellow  [ghost_smiley]


Cathy

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In the Depp world, we have heard rumblings of Johnny possibly being in Alice In Wonderland, but it has not been reported officially.  Like you, jimbo, I am errrrrrrrrr, a little skeptical about this Sun report, because it doesn't name any names giving an official statement.  Nevertheless, the Sun article seems to have been picked up by a lot of other gossip publications today.  But as I said, we've heard previous rumblings so this could be true.  Whether or not Johnny will be in it, it's definite that Tim will be tied up with it for awhile either way.  However, I heard fairly recently that the filming is due to start this November, so I don't know if the Sun is correct in stating that filming will start next year.

Also today, I saw part of an interview with a representative of Infinitum Nihil, Johnny's production company.  Dark Shadows is briefly mentioned, and unfortunately the guy is laughing at DS's production values, but I don't know if he realized how short a time they had to prepare to get the show on EVERY DAY, and how they could usually not do retakes.  Anyhow, it was nice to see the mention from an actual member of IN.  The other interesting thing about the interview is that he mentions a few films in the pipeline, including Shantaram, which most of us think will be Johnny's next film to shoot.  But when asked which films he'll star in, the rep says probably only Rex Mundi (which is another graphic novel in the pipeline).  Neglecting to include Shantaram for Johnny to star in could just be an oversight (even though he had just mentioned that film), but it's possible that due to all the delays for that film, he may have bowed out of starring in that one without us knowing.  That'd be news to us, but may ease his filming schedule a bit, because that was going to be a long shoot, with some filming taking place in India and Morocco.  So, I guess we'll have to see about all of this, and I fear that there will be no concrete news until after the SAG/actors' strike situation is totally resolved.

Oh, almost forgot the link to the interview- it's with Jeff Taplin of Infinitum Nihil:
http://www.theblackhollywoodfiles.com/2008/07/part-deux-of-my-interview-with.html

Cathy

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Current Talk '08 II / Re: Characters Ages. I need a little help here.
« on: July 24, 2008, 02:41:36 PM »
MB was stating the ages as they were specified in a manuscript written before the show actually started-- a.k.a. Shadows on the Wall - The DS Bible .
Once the show actually took form certain facts were altered.

Carolyn's age fluctuates back and forth depending on the storyline. But believe it or not, it's most often established throughout the various storylines that she was 17 when DS began - flashbacks featuring Paul Stoddard and the Leviathans notwithstanding.  [ghost_wink]

Ah, thanks for the clarifications!

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Current Talk '08 II / Re: Characters Ages. I need a little help here.
« on: July 24, 2008, 04:37:08 AM »

Carolyn is 17

I could be wrong, but wasn't Carolyn 2 years old when Paul Stoddard left?  Wouldn't that make her a bit older?

Cathy

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Forgot to ask, did Pierson happen to mention what his role is (if any) in this film? 

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jimbo, thanks for elaborating.  "Um, what casting rumors?" was my first reaction, too!  I haven't seen any yet in the media (other than Johnny for Barnabas), but I imagine it will start to happen if the film gets reported in the media more often.   Now I want to know which sites have the "inside information"  [ghost_cheesy]  Nah, just kidding, I tend to be skeptical of such sites and their agendas- I can wait for the real reports. 

BTW Johnny's only 45 (born June 9, 1963)- I know that makes a huge difference  [ghost_wink]  The guy has always been incredibly youthful looking.  That said, I can't help but hope that there might be an aging sequence in the film- I think he'd have a hoot playing a 150 year-old man!

Cathy

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Can I play Willie in Depp Shadows?
I want to be Johnny's slave,
sigh.........

Sounds good to me- can I get in line, too??  [ghost_smiley]


The t-shirts sound great, too... nobody knows how to contact the vendor, do they?

Cathy

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I saw Johnny Depp at the Fest~~his face adorned a T shirt that was for sale, LOL!
But I saw him!

LOL!   [ghost_grin]  I guess that counts!  Was it a Depp-as-Barnabas t-shirt, David?

Cathy

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As usual I'm behind on checking my e-mail, so I just came across this mention of the DS Fest in Saturday's LA Times: (URL)
. However, who knew this was Frid's "first convention appearance"? Or that this year "will be special, as DS devotees will get to to see ... actor Johnny Depp, a long-time fan of the show, who will portray the undead Barnabas in an upcoming film"? I'm guessing the fans who witnessed the latter simply passed out on the spot and have yet to revive, and that's the reason why no one has mentioned it yet.

Although, maybe the LA Times writer simply saw the Fest flyer that could have easily been construed to imply Depp would be a part of the movie panel, and that's where she got that idea. But who knows where she got the idea this was going to be Frid's first Fest?  ::)

MB, the Depp fans found this article on Sat., and they got really excited about the prospect of Johnny appearing at the Fest.  I had to calm them down on the board I participate in, and express my skepticism. I pointed out that the part about "a discussion about the film with Johnny Depp" probably meant that Johnny would be in the film, not the discussion!  Don't get me wrong, I wish that Johnny could've been there!  But I knew that he wasn't expected.  I also saw the huge goof about Frid, and felt that this particular reporter didn't do very thorough research  [ghost_embarrassed]

By the way, I'd like to thank all the kind folks who gave feedback and reports about the Fest- keep 'em coming!  I haven't been to one in 11 years, but hope to make it back to one someday!

Cathy

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I am not too familiar with the specifics of the actors' strike, and I agree that from what little I've heard, it seems most of the opinion is that the SAG is being too bullheaded and not willing to compromise.  That said, Johnny Depp has been in one of the most successful movie franchises ever, and he can certainly afford to live in mansion(s) (he does have the house in LA but still has a house in the south of France as well as an island in the Bahamas, and divides his time among them), but his financial success is certainly not indicative of all actors; I'm sure there are many out there who struggle for a living.  I'm not saying that this strike would be right, but just that I believe there is a good reason for their unions.  Further, I have read nothing that Johnny is supporting the strike.  I am not sure about this, but I think the possibility of a strike is hurting him more than helping, because from what little I've heard, the fate of Shantaram, possibly the next movie Johnny will film (and produce), is currently on pause waiting to see how things shake out.  I'm sure it would be much better to have firm plans made.  And if Shantaram gets made, it's more likely that the way will be paved for DS.  I just hope, as I'm sure we all do, that the whole bloody mess will be resolved soon.

Cathy

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