DARK SHADOWS FORUMS

General Discussions => Current Talk Archive => Current Talk '24 I => Current Talk '04 I => Topic started by: Raineypark on March 25, 2004, 03:59:33 PM

Title: Waking up in the 21st Century......
Post by: Raineypark on March 25, 2004, 03:59:33 PM: Somehow, I don't think the original series method of simply ignoring the problem of Barnabas' antiquity is going to work in a prime time series. I can't quite picture a complete lack of automobiles, computers, plasma screen televisions and telephones....especially considering the demographics of the network involved.

So....how do you suppose they're going to handle teaching Barnabas to live in his new environment....and what excuse will they have for marching back and forth through the woods from house to house, instead of calling one another on their cell phones?
Title: Re:Waking up in the 21st Century......
Post by: Maria_Merriweather on March 25, 2004, 07:08:22 PM: Barnabas will claim to be old-fashioned. He will say that he's always done well without all the modern technological advances--computers, cell phones etc. In England he always had a driver. He never had a phone because that would disturb his solitude. He will be just thought of as eccentric. [blackbat]
Title: Re:Waking up in the 21st Century......
Post by: coterie-mc on March 25, 2004, 08:41:06 PM: Raineypark, I haven't seen the 1991 DS series since it aired back then, and i cannot remember if they dealt with Barnabas learning about "our" time. but i know that innovation comics explained that Willie suppied him with books, tv etc
(http://www.military.com/UserImages/123653)
the page before this one was a riot, shows Barnabas shaving and Willie bringing him a TV guide & a Playboy magazine.
Title: Re:Waking up in the 21st Century......
Post by: Raineypark on March 25, 2004, 09:30:30 PM: Thank you for posting this, coteriemc.....what a hoot!!!

Never saw any part of the 91 series.......does the Comic version of Willie look anything like the character from the series? ???
Title: Re:Waking up in the 21st Century......
Post by: coterie-mc on March 25, 2004, 10:14:47 PM: Raineypark...besides the two different 1991 Ben Cross Barnabas resin kits that were released. i would have to say the Innovation comics were the best DS merchandise from the 91 series. the comic images were life-like and they were not afraid to show alot of blood (http://www.military.com/UserImages/123671)
Title: Re:Waking up in the 21st Century......
Post by: Patti Feinberg on March 26, 2004, 12:05:59 AM: I think Barn'll have a cell and a computer, but not necessarily a TV. "Idiot Box!" (Of course, his rationale will be that a) he's not going to pay $60/month and b) that the SOX HAVEN'T WON IN A WHILE....sorry sweetheart Jennifer ).

He'll NEED to walk (I can't see Barn doing his 2 miles at the mall!!!) :D cause of his 'cholesterol' ;) (which, also, can help explain the Dr...cause a Julia character needing to be there to 'research' would be very outmoded.)

Patti
Title: Re:Waking up in the 21st Century......
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on March 26, 2004, 12:06:10 AM: Quote from: Raineypark on March 25, 2004, 09:30:30 PM
does the Comic version of Willie look anything like the character from the series? ???

The '91 series' Willie was VERY different the original version as portrayed by John Karlen. I suspect you might have hated him.

(http://www.dsboards.com/images/fyfe.jpg)
Title: Re:Waking up in the 21st Century......
Post by: Patti Feinberg on March 26, 2004, 12:09:04 AM: Quote from: Mysterious Benefactor on March 26, 2004, 12:06:10 AM
The '91 series' Willie was VERY different the original version as portrayed by John Karlen. I suspect you might have hated him.

ummm...is he supposed to look like a complete THUG? (Not for nothin', but your average 8th grade GIRL could take this guy ;D )

Patti
Title: Re:Waking up in the 21st Century......
Post by: Gerard on March 26, 2004, 01:23:33 AM: I'm picturing our new Barnabas, still 21st-century-technology-challenged, walking into a Sharper Image store, seeing a tanning booth, thinking it's some contemporary, chic style of coffin, purchasing it, taking it home, plugging it in and, well, you can figure out what would happen from there. The new Willie would have an awful mess to clean up.

Gerard
Title: Re:Waking up in the 21st Century......
Post by: Midnite on March 26, 2004, 01:26:59 AM: LOL, Gerard!

Uh, Patti, why would an undead guy need exercise? ???
Title: Re:Waking up in the 21st Century......
Post by: Raineypark on March 26, 2004, 05:53:58 AM: Quote from: Mysterious Benefactor on March 26, 2004, 12:06:10 AM
The '91 series' Willie was VERY different the original version as portrayed by John Karlen. I suspect you might have hated him.

I suspect you might be right. :P
Title: Re:Waking up in the 21st Century......
Post by: tripwire on March 26, 2004, 06:45:07 AM: After 209 years in that coffin, i bet the first thing Barnabas asks Willie is if the outhouse is still down the path behind the oldhouse. Getting caught up in traffic is one thing, over 2 centuries :o
Title: Re:Waking up in the 21st Century......
Post by: jennifer on March 29, 2004, 05:23:36 PM: Quote from: Patti on March 26, 2004, 12:05:59 AM
I think Barn'll have a cell and a computer, but not necessarily a TV. "Idiot Box!" (Of course, his rationale will be that a) he's not going to pay $60/month and b) that the SOX HAVEN'T WON IN A WHILE....sorry sweetheart Jennifer ).

no problem Patti after all it is a new year ;D but if some of the dumb wits out there in 2004
can survive i'm sure a smart vamp like Barnabas will sort it out. some days i long for the "simple days" but then i log on to buy something, stay attached to my loved ones
with my cell phone, nuke supper and tape a movieand say Who am i kidding?[lol2]

jennifer
anyone try tivo yet?
Title: Re:Waking up in the 21st Century......
Post by: Tanis on March 29, 2004, 09:49:21 PM: Would a dead person need an outhouse????? ::)

Tanis
Title: Re:Waking up in the 21st Century......
Post by: Connie on March 30, 2004, 05:41:51 AM: Quote from: Tanis on March 29, 2004, 09:49:21 PM
Would a dead person need an outhouse????? ::)

It depends.
Title: Re:Waking up in the 21st Century......
Post by: CyrusL on March 30, 2004, 08:46:17 PM: I'm curious to know how the many changes in medical and criminal justice technology might affect the story. Think about how much more difficult it will be to pull off "the cousin from England" bit now, in the age when we have, say, Victor Hugo's will on the internet. How will aid affect the show? Will Julia give Barnabas a cathscan? (Did I spell that right?) I have often thought that many of the classic '60 shows like "Then Came Bronson" or "The Fugitive" would be difficult to pull off now, as despite the bugaboo of identity theft, most identity theft is relatively short term. Willie will now have to be a genius hacker to create an artificial background for Barnabas.
Any thoughts? :-
Title: Re:Waking up in the 21st Century......
Post by: Raineypark on March 30, 2004, 08:59:01 PM: Thank you for bringing this up, CyrusL!! I didn't think of it before, but you're absolutely right! And guess which character came first to mind?

Dr. Julia.

How on earth is she going to get away with pronouncing people dead after a cursory search for a pulse, in an age of high-tech equiptment and medical malpractice?

How is she going to hand out sedatives like Halloween candy with no prescriptions?

And best of all....how is she going to send Willie (and everyone else! ::) ) to Windcliffe on her own, without the permission of 13 different lackies at some HMO AND a court order?

Talk about dramatic tension!! [lghy]
Title: Re:Waking up in the 21st Century......
Post by: dom on March 30, 2004, 09:08:43 PM: Good question.

I don't think the medical aspect would present any problems with your then vs now scenario (not that you were suggesting it would be a problem), and I think the fact that Barn will be identical to his "ancestor's" portrait can pretty much cover anyone's suspicions. I mean, not everyone's life is on display on the web. And Barn has always been clever with the explanations. If Willie's not a moron, he should be able to provide Barn with cover as well. At least with a good script, lol. But it will be very interesting to see how they will use today's technology in the script, either as an advantage or disadvantage to Barnabas.
Title: Re:Waking up in the 21st Century......
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on March 30, 2004, 09:20:20 PM: Quote from: Raineypark on March 30, 2004, 08:59:01 PM
How on earth is she going to get away with pronouncing people dead after a cursory search for a pulse, in an age of high-tech equiptment and medical malpractice?

How is she going to hand out sedatives like Halloween candy with no prescriptions?

And best of all....how is she going to send Willie (and everyone else! ::) ) to Windcliffe on her own, without the permission of 13 different lackies at some HMO AND a court order?

Believe it or not, the '91 series Julia didn't do any of that. In fact, she wasn't even affiliated with any sort of instituition (no pun intended ;)) like Wyndcliff - she actually came to Collinsport from New York University.

Shocking, huh? :D

Talk about thinking outside the box.

Hmmm... You know what this means, don't you?

Thinking outside the box: 1

Raineypark: 0

[b003]
Title: Re:Waking up in the 21st Century......
Post by: Raineypark on March 30, 2004, 09:54:32 PM: Quote from: Mysterious Benefactor on March 30, 2004, 09:20:20 PM
Hmmm... You know what this means, don't you?
Thinking outside the box: 1
Raineypark: 0
[b003]

Goddess you're insufferable when you think you're being "scathingly brilliant"....aren't you? [noseinair]
Title: Re:Waking up in the 21st Century......
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on March 30, 2004, 10:24:24 PM: [lghy] [lol2] [lghy] [lol2] [lghy]

[wink2]
Title: Re:Waking up in the 21st Century......
Post by: Luciaphile on March 31, 2004, 07:01:21 PM: Quote from: dom on March 30, 2004, 09:08:43 PM
I don't think the medical aspect would present any problems with your then vs now scenario (not that you were suggesting it would be a problem), and I think the fact that Barn will be identical to his "ancestor's" portrait can pretty much cover anyone's suspicions. I mean, not everyone's life is on display on the web. And Barn has always been clever with the explanations. If Willie's not a moron, he should be able to provide Barn with cover as well. At least with a good script, lol. But it will be very interesting to see how they will use today's technology in the script, either as an advantage or disadvantage to Barnabas.

Googling Barnabas! I love it. Seriously though, these days it's becoming more and more of a norm to see people's whole lives spread out for anyone with a little know-how and a ISP connection to see.

On the other hand, judging from the plethora of non-traditional learners I get at the desk, it's by no means uncommon to have no computer knowledge at all.
Title: Re:Waking up in the 21st Century......
Post by: Patti Feinberg on April 09, 2004, 12:32:45 PM: Well...duh...DAVID's going to teach him.

Being a 10-12 year old, he'll of course be fixing/teaching all the Collins!!

Also, instead of an MD/shrink, I think Julia should be R&D for chromosomes; human genome all that stuff.

What will be cool too is Willie can text message Barn if someone is on the way to the Old House.

Patti