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Title: TV Guide dot Com
Post by: Patti Feinberg on December 06, 2003, 07:01:50 PM
I just went into tvguide.com, and there was a big pic of Barn with his cane and the title said Who Should play Barnabas on a remake.

It's cycling with 2 or 3 other titles, but GO!!!

Wooow!!! I always am on here...so I thought I had mis guided myself!!!!!

If you go to the top, where it says news, then below to Insider, there's an ARTICLE ON RE-DOING DS!!!

Happy reading,

Patti
Title: Re:TV Guide dot Com
Post by: Raineypark on December 06, 2003, 07:15:21 PM
Dylan McDermott is the only person on that list I've even heard of.....and I can't picture HIM in the role at all... :P

The Count's not a bad idea though.......[lghy]
Title: Re:TV Guide dot Com
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on December 06, 2003, 09:38:22 PM
Dylan McDermott is the only person on that list I've even heard of.....

You really do need to expand you entertqinment exposure level, don't you?! Step away from cauldron once and awhile!  [lghy]
(Although this is coming from someone who seemingly works on this site 24 hours a day - but at least I've subscribed to and read Entertainment Weekly since 1991, starting just around the same time as when the '91 series debuted.  ;))

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and I can't picture HIM in the role at all... :P

Well, as much as I like some of them (Pasdar (excellent in Near Dark (one of my favorite vamp movies and he can definitely play the reluctant-vamp aspect well) and near genius in Profit (which, not incidentally, was created, written & produced by Buffy/Angel's David Greenwalt)), McDermott, Patric & Cannavale), I can't picture any of them as Barnabas either. But then, I couldn't picture Ben Cross as Barnabas at first (not in any small part due to the fact that TV Guide chose what was possibly the worst photo ever taken of him to accompany their announcement of his casting). But once photos of him in character began to circulate and definitely once actual clips/interviews began to surface on the various entertainment news shows, Cross won me over. By the time the series debuted (particularly after having seen the dozens of promos NBC ran), I had no doubt whatsoever that he could be Barnabas. So, who knows - perhaps a similar circumstance could repeat itself this time around. (Well, if this project is ever a go, that is...funny how this TV Guide article makes it seem as if it's already a done deal, yet we've yet to hear anything of the kind... Sloppy reporting? Or are we just behind in the loop?)

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The Count's not a bad idea though.......[lghy]

"Look into my eyes, one, two, three."

Hmmm- just doesn't do it for me.  ;)
Title: Re:TV Guide dot Com
Post by: Julia99 on December 06, 2003, 10:10:13 PM
on which page, the soaps page?  nevermind. .found it on the NewsPage--I vote for Adrian Pasdar or Jason Patrick. . Oliver Martinez is just too pretty.
Title: Re:TV Guide dot Com
Post by: Midnite on December 06, 2003, 11:06:37 PM
 http://www.tvguide.com/news/insider/


Like a vampire that simply refuses to die, the gothic soap opera Dark Shadows (which ran on ABC as an afternoon serial from 1966 to '71 and, almost a decade later, was resurrected by NBC as a Friday-night fright)

Nice math, lol.  ::)
Title: Re:TV Guide dot Com
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on December 06, 2003, 11:28:17 PM
Checking his facts. Checking his math. Apparently that reporter doesn't think either is a necessity. Actually, it looks more like he's a graduate from the new school of reporting that thinks both are a hindrance.  ::)
Title: Re:TV Guide dot Com
Post by: Raineypark on December 06, 2003, 11:49:07 PM
Step away from cauldron once and awhile!  [lghy]

I beg your pardon....? (Where did I put that fillet of a fenny snake...[vryevl] )

Actually, there was no journalism involved at all.  Did the article give the impression that any of the listed possibilities was actually being considered for the role?   This was lazy wool-gathering on someone's part, never glanced at by a fact-checker, and passed off as an "article" by lazy editors.
Title: Re:TV Guide dot Com
Post by: Stuart on December 07, 2003, 01:31:20 AM
I think some of the people are being a little unfair about the article - it's not meant to be a serious journalistic overview of the casting process, but just a bit of fun kicking about possibilities.

Anyway, since a friend suggested it to me, I'm convinced that Crispin Glover is just born to play Barnabas. He's about the right age, looks totally sinister and has just the right air of menace about him.
Title: Re:TV Guide dot Com
Post by: Julia99 on December 07, 2003, 01:57:28 AM

Anyway, since a friend suggested it to me, I'm convinced that Crispin Glover is just born to play Barnabas. He's about the right age, looks totally sinister and has just the right air of menace about him.

As well as interesting hair but can Crispin look forlorn? (oh wait. .i forget his mooning over Calvin Klein's mama-to-be in BTF). . .
Title: Re:TV Guide dot Com
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on December 07, 2003, 08:26:49 AM
Did the article give the impression that any of the listed possibilities was actually being considered for the role?   This was lazy wool-gathering on someone's part

Well, to be fair, articles about potential casting are pretty common these days (several appear every month in the print issues of both TV Guide and Entertainment Weekly). But my problem with this particular instance isn't that the actors included may or may not ever be considered for Barnabas...

I think some of the people are being a little unfair about the article - it's not meant to be a serious journalistic overview of the casting process, but just a bit of fun kicking about possibilities.

...My problem is that it gives an impression that a new WB DS is already a done deal. But unless we're being kept in the dark (no pun intended  ;)) because DC and John Welles want, for whatever reason, to play things really close to the vest (which seems unlikely - especially given the level of coverage just the mere possibilty of a new series has already gotten in the trades), that wouldn't appear to be the case at this point in time.

Fluff is fine and can certainly have its place. But at the same time, just because a piece is fluff, it doesn't necessarily follow that the need to state/check facts or present an accurate picture goes out the window. From the get go, this fluff piece takes as its premise that a deal for a new WB DS is complete. And quite frankly it's not really fair to set up DS fans who, unlike us, may not be clued in to things like SG Update or other direct links to DCP to otherwise know any better, and who are quite possibly only getting their info from TV Guide, so they're extremely likely to assume that if TV Guide is saying it, well then, it must be true that there really IS a deal completed already.  :-   But the simple fact of the matter is that for the sake of accuracy it would have been so easy for this TV Guide reporter to have written something along the lines of "Like a vampire that simply refuses to die, the gothic soap opera Dark Shadows ... could be raised from the grave yet again" or "might be" rather than give the seemingly erroneous impression of an already done deal as he has by instead writing "Like a vampire that simply refuses to die, the gothic soap opera Dark Shadows ... is being raised from the grave yet again."

That's my only point - and I don't think it's an unfair one...
Title: Re:TV Guide dot Com
Post by: jimbo on December 08, 2003, 05:48:34 AM
This may be wishful thinking but I have to believe that the TV Guide reporter has confirmed with his sources that some type of deal has been reached prior to running a major piece. In any event I believe with all of the publicity generated and high exposure given to the new series, that even if the WB passes on the new Dark Shadows, another network will now be interested, especially having looked at the other 2004 shows in development which all appear to be a bunch of losers.(see www.tvtome.com). Bottom line at this point I have to believe in TV Guide's credibility and hope for the best.
Title: Re:TV Guide dot Com
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on December 08, 2003, 07:43:19 AM
This may be wishful thinking but I have to believe that the TV Guide reporter has confirmed with his sources that some type of deal has been reached prior to running a major piece.

We should only be so lucky. But, unfortunately, I have my doubts (particularly considering that the latest SG update, which was only issued yesterday, still describes the project as a "proposed new DS pilot script for possible consideration by the WB network").

But anyway, on a much more positive note, welcome to the forum! I'm glad you've decided to become a registered member and to post. And if you have any questions about any of the forum's features (some things can be a bit confusing at first  ;)), please check out the forum's help pages (by clicking on the (http://www.dsboards.com/dsb05/YaBBImages/help.gif) button in the forum's main menus at the top and bottom of most of the forum's pages and then checking out the links), sift through the posts on the Testing board, or post your own question(s) there. We'll do our best to point you in the right direction.  :)  And with a bit of practice, you should be up to speed in no time...
Title: Re:TV Guide dot Com
Post by: jimbo on December 16, 2003, 02:21:36 AM
Hi,
Thank you for your words of encouragement and support.

I actually just spent a good amount of time in preparing a detailed response to your message and when I clicked on the post function key, it told me an error had occured and to log in. That was really frustrating as I had given a great deal of thought in preparing my response. Perhaps I did something wrong?
Title: Re:TV Guide dot Com
Post by: Midnite on December 16, 2003, 02:32:29 AM
Sorry that happened, jimbo.  It logged as a session timeout.  That's why you had to log back in when you returned to post your message.  To avoid it in the future, when logging in check "always stay logged in".  Just keep in mind, though, that if you share your computer you'll want to log out manually when you choose to end the session or someone else coming here on that same computer would instantly have access to your account.
Title: Re:TV Guide dot Com
Post by: picard on December 19, 2003, 12:33:49 AM
I think in casting the new barnabas should be a releatively unknown as should the rest of the cast. Be around at least 32 and have the same aspects that Johnathan frid had that made the character his own and his own alone and forever. No one can fill his shoes. not even half way.
Title: Re:TV Guide dot Com
Post by: Patti Feinberg on December 19, 2003, 03:08:28 AM
IMHO

I don't necessarily think certain roles should be recast, but, they could have a 'dark, mysterious type'; someone with a few  [flashing_eyes] skeltons in the closet....why does the phone ring only twice on Tuesdays??  Who left that note in her jacket?

I don't necessarily think DS can be RE-DONE; but, a show which could rightly be called Dark Shadows would be interesting to watch and learn to love in and of it's own merit.

Again, just my humble own :)

Patti