DARK SHADOWS FORUMS
General Discussions => Current Talk Archive => Current Talk '24 I => Current Talk '02 I => Topic started by: VAM on April 13, 2002, 02:37:14 AM
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During the '60, there was no doubt limitations as to what you could do using special effects. Considering the availability of technology, DS did really well. However, let's pretend we had no limitations. What sort of things would you do to further enhance some of the scenes? Be creative and add some of your own!
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The bat would be computer enhanced. Barnabas' hand certainly wouldn't look like a cut-out. And, for cryin' out loud, get those candles to blow out on cue! I always thought the make-up was very well done, especially the aging process. Ironically, I think it looked far more realistic back then than what they do today. I saw a rerun of Stark Trek - The Next Generation on TNN which included "aging". They all looked like they fell into a vat of pancake goop. However, on DS, it was all extremely convincing. Barnabas, when he aged almost 200 years, looked realistic.
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So did Angelique. Even Carolyn, appearing as a woman in her mid-forties in 1995, looked very convincing, with a minimum of makeup.
I was not that impressed with the Ef-X of the DS revival series. I remember the scene where Angelique, holding the bullet which would kill Jeremiah in her hand, caused it to vanish and end up in Barnabas' gun. There was a definite "chopping" in that scene. They did better on Bewitched.
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During the '60, there was no doubt limitations as to what you could do using special effects. Considering the availability of technology, DS did really well. However, let's pretend we had no limitations. What sort of things would you do to further enhance some of the scenes? Be creative and add some of your own!
Less is more.
Instead of playing around with bats and fake blood, I would be taking a page from the Val Lewton unit from RKO in the 40s (anyone remember the original Cat People or the marvelous, The Seventh Victim?) and trying to create suspense and terror without the hack'n' slash stuff.
Might also play around with sound a bit more. They really could have done some creative things for very little money (ala The Haunting (original version, thank you) or even Blair Witch Project.
Less is more.
Luciaphil
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Perhaps some play with the tombstones.
Yes, of course I mean that they wouldn't fall over, but, wouldn't it be cool if perchance Julia was in the cemetary, and would walk across her [shadow=red,left,300]OWN[/shadow]grave??
Or perhaps, someone could see a future tombstone?
Considering what DC&Co. had to go with, the lighting is actually quite good.
I can't stand the lighting on X-Files; I'm constantly squinting to see who is in the scene!!
Patti
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I agree with Luciaphil that "sometimes less is more."
One of the things I like about the B&W DS episodes is the lighting and atmosphere that recreates the look of the classic Universal horror films. When DS first went to color, I felt it was too brightly lit--only later, after the 1795 story concludes, does the color lighting begin to approach the same atmosphere of the B&W shows. (But that's only my opinion.)
By the way, I do remember THE SEVENTH VICTIM--and in particular I believe there was a suspensful scene featuring a door at the end of a hall that Kim Hunter was afraid to open--or am I thinking of something else? ?!?
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One thing I'd improve upon is the shadow Nicholas used to haunt Jeb in the Leviathan story. That paper cut-out looked too funny to be frightening!
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By the way, I do remember THE SEVENTH VICTIM--and in particular I believe there was a suspensful scene featuring a door at the end of a hall that Kim Hunter was afraid to open--or am I thinking of something else? ?!?
Nope, that's the one. Actually, the door is the one she makes the detective go through, with some um, unfortunate results.
Some of those movies would do some amazing things with people walking around dark, deserted streets. Jean Brooks in the Seventh Victim trying to get back to her apartment comes to mind.
(shiver)
Luciaphil
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One thing I'd improve upon is the shadow Nicholas used to haunt Jeb in the Leviathan story. That paper cut-out looked too funny to be frightening!
As a general rule, I think anything that looks like it can be done by an elementary school art class should be avoided as a means of creating a mood of horror and terror ;)
Luciaphil
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Brian, a poster mentioned that they found the blue in your message above unreadable. I can change it for you if you'd like.
But unfortunately, the wording of the request warranted removal, and I'll add that if they'd like to continue to enjoy posting privileges on this board, even when doing so as a guest, I recommend they follow the forum guidelines they agreed to when they registered.
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How about getting rid of those "fake bats" and just start using real ones! (except for the part where Barnabas is attacked of course)
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Midnight, thanks for the notice--I can read the blue post just fine on my screen--and, in fact, I used the blue font to make a point about the use of blue light, in particular, to create some of the atmosphere on DS. Ah, well, guess my little experiment didn't go over well. Next time I'll try a different color, but in the meantime, if the poster used language that warranted removal of his/her message, then leave the blue of my post for spite!! ;D
Brian
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Midnight, thanks for the notice--I can read the blue post just fine on my screen--and, in fact, I used the blue font to make a point about the use of blue light, in particular, to create some of the atmosphere on DS. Ah, well, guess my little experiment didn't go over well.
The board displays slightly differently for users, depending on how it's viewed. I had to move a little closer to read your message on my Netscape, but it was readable nonetheless so I didn't feel it was worth mentioning. And if someone finds it completely unreadable, they'd be able to view it fine if they were to open a reply window within that topic because that would show all the messages over a light background.
Next time I'll try a different color, but in the meantime, if the poster used language that warranted removal of his/her message, then leave the blue of my post for spite!! ;D
That works for me too!
Thanks, Brian.
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I think it depends on which background color the post ends up on. I know there's been one person who has used a color several times (I thought it was blue, but this blue looks fine - but maybe the other came upon the gray background instead of the darker one) and I've found it extremely difficult to read. It sort of glowed and almost looked three dimensional. I was tempted to comment several times to suggest not using that.
After initially posting this I encountered the blue on the gray background and that's definitely the difference. It has a kind of "glowy" quality and I find it very difficult to read. Of course one can't be certain of which background they'll get - it's possible that while composing one's response someone else will post just before. However that's probably rare. Perhaps one should consider the likely background color before choosing a posting color.
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Perhaps one should consider the likely background color before choosing a posting color.
Thanks, Josette. But that's not always reliable. However, registered members can modify anything in their messages, including its color and any other "special effects" (I guess we're on topic after all ;)) at any time after posting.
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I was the one who made the "inappropriate" comments, which I did not think were that inappropriate. I only said "f-ing" blue.
I really cannot read that "fun" blue.
1. I know my monitor displays things a bit differently because I broke one of the little spike things on the chord that connects into the comptuer, so I have to use an extension so that it will even connect to my computer. (Without the extension, it will not even go into the computer socket!) As a result, things are a little darker and off color. This is just because I have packed up and moved my computer a number of times rather carelessly and apparently was a little rough on it.
2. I have poor eyesight anyway, and have to have the text size on Largest to be able to read without irritation.
So please...stick to regular colors and don't try anything fancy, because not everyone can read it when you mess around so much with the colors. Be considerate of other posters and do not deliberately cause them to agonize in discomfiture. Your best points are made with only a few choice words that demand our attention, not coloring the typeface in odd ways.
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I've noticed on my own post that some colors show up better than others :( . Most of the time I cannot read them at work but then again I am not supposed to be reading them at work so bad me.
Now I could read the blue just fine but once I posted in green and had to squint to see it. I love how some posters get so creative with their post. Some day I will learn how you all do it.
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I was the one who made the "inappropriate" comments, which I did not think were that inappropriate. I only said "f-ing" blue.
I really cannot read that "fun" blue.
Ah, sarcasm. First off, reread the guidelines that, as I said before, you agreed to when you registered, and be mindful of how you speak to other posters.
If you didn't feel the comments were inappropriate, then why are you assuming yet another identity to say them? You haven't requested your password from the board nor have you mentioned to MB or myself that you lost it. Using multiple identities is not acceptable on these forums, and if you speak as you did to another poster using a different (and different from this one, I might add) identity, then it's going to be removed from the board again, and continuing to post under different identities to say anything at all will be risking your membership and posting privileges here. And if you don't understand why the moderators of this board consider the use of multiple identities to be problematic issue, then all you have to do is write to me off board and I'll explain it to you.
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Ah, sarcasm. First off, reread the guidelines that, as I said before, you agreed to when you registered, and be mindful of how you speak to other posters.
If you didn't feel the comments were inappropriate, then why are you assuming yet another identity to say them? You haven't requested your password from the board nor have you mentioned to MB or myself that you lost it. Using multiple identities is not acceptable on these forums, and if you speak as you did to another poster using a different (and different from this one, I might add) identity, then it's going to be removed from the board again, and continuing to post under different identities to say anything at all will be risking your membership and posting privileges here. And if you don't understand why the moderators of this board consider the use of multiple identities to be problematic issue, then all you have to do is write to me off board and I'll explain it to you.
Looks like this post provoked other comments that were not intended-Sorry, I made the query since it has ignited problems.
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Looks like this post provoked other comments that were not intended-Sorry, I made the query since it has ignited problems.
No need to apologize, VAM. It could've happened anywhere.
I have a suggestion for one of your topics/polls, if you're interested in presenting the list. How about we choose our favorite DS lawyer? [smash]
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Ah, sarcasm. First off, reread the guidelines that, as I said before, you agreed to when you registered, and be mindful of how you speak to other posters.
I canceled my registration a number of days ago, so I am no longer a member. I feel that this forum's policies and setup pose an invasion of privacy and it compels people to ignore me, people who because they hate me, ignore me, which you have to admit is a real problem that I have to deal with. The following are reasons why I felt that registration on this forum posed an invasion of my privacy:
1. It collects my email address;
2. It collects my age;
3. It collects my location;
4. It collects statistics on the number of times I post;
5. It provides users the ability the view ALL of my posts on one page (through the profile). This can be used to profile people, to carefully look for odd personal details here and there. I do not want DS people knowing information about me.
If you didn't feel the comments were inappropriate, then why are you assuming yet another identity to say them?
Because you deleted it! I only had used that name once, and I did not remember what it was. Often when I go on gay.com, I will make up a new chat name each time for my protection. I see no reason why I cannot do it here. I have no reason of abusing it. Obviously I know your collect the IP address, which would hold me accountable, unless I chose to circumvent that, which I don't see necessary since I have no reason to "abuse" it. I do not want people to know who I am, to associate me with some online identity. I don't want to be a poster here. I want to see my voice, my opinions come here ANONYMOUSLY when I feel like it. This is only accomplished, in the current setup, by using a variety of identities, so I would hope you would have the respect for me and decency to allow me to maintain my privacy and to allow me to publish my views here in a manner that allows them to be viewed objectively and not automatiically derided or unnecessarily scrutenized. Thus, my views will be evaulated on the basis of their merit, not on who I am or personal vendettas people childlishly harbor against me.
You haven't requested your password from the board nor have you mentioned to MB or myself that you lost it.
I canceled my membership for the aforementioend reasons.
Using multiple identities is not acceptable on these forums,
Why? So you peopel can decide to deride what I say and talk about me in private? So you can ignore me? Why can't I share my opinions and let them be evaluated objectively? Why do I have to allow people to be able to profile me by associating me with a certain handle and keeping notes of what I say and write? That's a bit extreme, and I know people here will do it, people who have vendettas against me, and I do not want to tolerate that kind of abuse against me. What other options do I have realisticly??
and if you speak as you did to another poster using a different (and different from this one, I might add) identity, then it's going to be removed from the board again,
I asked them to not use a "fun" blue. That is not abusive. Come on!
and continuing to post under different identities to say anything at all will be risking your membership and posting privileges here.
I do not want membership here because of the invasion of privacy it poses. What means would you use to prevent me form posting as a guest? Besides, I do not even see that listed in the rules, the order that I cannot use multiple identities! It seems like I am being picked on unjustly because of past, perhaps unresolved personal vendettas against me, and it is not professional at all to do so. Let the vendettas die.
I hope you will be responsible enough to allow people who don't want to be derided and profiled to post ANONYMOUSLY with a variety of names so that their opinions get the same treatment everyone else's does.
And if you don't understand why the moderators of this board consider the use of multiple identities to be problematic issue, then all you have to do is write to me off board and I'll explain it to you.
Now that I have deleted my account, I would prefer to keep my email confidential.
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I canceled my registration a number of days ago, so I am no longer a member. I feel that this forum's policies and setup pose an invasion of privacy and it compels people to ignore me, people who because they hate me, ignore me, which you have to admit is a real problem that I have to deal with.
I will not admit to that because I would never presume to know what's in your head or heart. After you introduced yourself and shared a bit about yourself, you were welcomed here by several members and I don't have any knowledge that anyone has ignored you, attacked you, or invaded your privacy. Your decision to become a member, as well as to post, was by your choice.
The following are reasons why I felt that registration on this forum posed an invasion of my privacy:
1. It collects my email address;
2. It collects my age;
3. It collects my location;
4. It collects statistics on the number of times I post;
5. It provides users the ability the view ALL of my posts on one page (through the profile). This can be used to profile people, to carefully look for odd personal details here and there. I do not want DS people knowing information about me.
The owners of this forum don't profile users or seek to collect any information about them. All members have the option of making their email private; you chose to post it in your 1st message on the board, so if you want it removed from that post, please let me know. Age and location are optional and were only available for you because you chose to enter them into your profile.
If you didn't feel the comments were inappropriate, then why are you assuming yet another identity to say them?
Because you deleted it! I only had used that name once, and I did not remember what it was. Often when I go on gay.com, I will make up a new chat name each time for my protection. I see no reason why I cannot do it here. I have no reason of abusing it. Obviously I know your collect the IP address, which would hold me accountable, unless I chose to circumvent that, which I don't see necessary since I have no reason to "abuse" it. I do not want people to know who I am, to associate me with some online identity. I don't want to be a poster here. I want to see my voice, my opinions come here ANONYMOUSLY when I feel like it. This is only accomplished, in the current setup, by using a variety of identities, so I would hope you would have the respect for me and decency to allow me to maintain my privacy and to allow me to publish my views here in a manner that allows them to be viewed objectively and not automatiically derided or unnecessarily scrutenized. Thus, my views will be evaulated on the basis of their merit, not on who I am or personal vendettas people childlishly harbor against me.
I have never treated you any other way except respectfully and decently. You are not being singled out because NO users of this forum are allowed to post from the same access using multiple identities, nor have they ever been on any forums I've moderated. I recommend that you remember your user name and continue to use it. You can blame posters that have abused this process by using multiple names to troll in the past and those that continue to do so elsewhere now. I feel that it's in the best interest of these forums to maintain this policy and that it would be detrimental to do otherwise.
Therefore, this is the way I'll continue to handle the issue of mutliple identities. You are free to post here anonymously as a guest, but not to use multiple identities. If you feel this is an unfair policy, that is certainly your right but I want to be clear that no exception will be made for you.
Why? So you peopel can decide to deride what I say and talk about me in private? So you can ignore me? Why can't I share my opinions and let them be evaluated objectively? Why do I have to allow people to be able to profile me by associating me with a certain handle and keeping notes of what I say and write? That's a bit extreme, and I know people here will do it, people who have vendettas against me, and I do not want to tolerate that kind of abuse against me. What other options do I have realisticly??
The forum is here so that you can share your opinions and I'm sorry if you feel ignored. If you feel that this forum has unfair policies, then a moderated forum may not be the way to go for you. No one behind these boards profiles, takes notes, seeks to abuse you, or has a vendetta against you. It is not our intention to deride you for what you have to say, but if you choose to not be polite to other posters then please understand that this violates other posters' rights and affects their comfort level and that a moderator may step in.
and if you speak as you did to another poster using a different (and different from this one, I might add) identity, then it's going to be removed from the board again,
I asked them to not use a "fun" blue. That is not abusive. Come on!
I didn't remove that message; it's still in this topic.
I do not want membership here because of the invasion of privacy it poses. What means would you use to prevent me form posting as a guest? Besides, I do not even see that listed in the rules, the order that I cannot use multiple identities! It seems like I am being picked on unjustly because of past, perhaps unresolved personal vendettas against me, and it is not professional at all to do so. Let the vendettas die.
I'm not preventing you from posting as a guest. I'm asking you to not post under multiple identities, but if you still do so, you will risk your posting privileges even as a guest.
I will not discuss the issue of vendettas with you because no one on this board has been prejudicial in their treatment of you and I don't see what it has to do with the issue at hand anyway.
I hope you will be responsible enough to allow people who don't want to be derided and profiled to post ANONYMOUSLY with a variety of names so that their opinions get the same treatment everyone else's does.
I take my responsibilities to these forums very seriously. No one is deriding you on this board and I've seen no proof that anyone has profiled you.
Now that I have deleted my account, I would prefer to keep my email confidential.
As I said, please let me know if you want it removed from your post.
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I've noticed on my own post that some colors show up better than others :( . Most of the time I cannot read them at work but then again I am not supposed to be reading them at work so bad me.
Now I could read the blue just fine but once I posted in green and had to squint to see it. I love how some posters get so creative with their post. Some day I will learn how you all do it.
I have trouble reading some of the colors too thought it was my computer because the color is off but i just end up highlighting some of the posts to read seems to work!
jennifer
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I think I like DS without all of the special effects. Even on Buffy alot of looks cheap to me. And that is today's standards. Ds had by far the best makeup.
jon
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Less is more.
Instead of playing around with bats and fake blood, I would be taking a page from the Val Lewton unit from RKO in the 40s (anyone remember the original Cat People or the marvelous, The Seventh Victim?) and trying to create suspense and terror without the hack'n' slash stuff.
Might also play around with sound a bit more. They really could have done some creative things for very little money (ala The Haunting (original version, thank you) or even Blair Witch Project.
Less is more.
Luciaphil
Boy, Luciaphil, it looks like we have very similar feelings about this show!
DS often managed to give me a sudden start with non-special effects stage tricks. For example, sometimes you have a "ghost," "witch" or other suddenly appear out of thin air. This was accomplished simply by standing the actor in a shadowy corner of the room and having them step out into the light, or else have the spotlight suddenly appear on them. I've jumped with surprise more than once at this very effective trick. Much more effective than squeaky rubber bats and tacky chroma-key shots.
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It would have been nice to have more location shots at Collinwood and the Old House; if they had the money and ability, the camera could zoom in on various parts of the houses, and through the windows into the scene that was about to be played. Seeing the houses from different angles and perhaps aerial views would have been nice too. And since there were so many scenes played out in the woods surrounding Collinwood, a more realistic woods setting would have been a huge improvement.
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To be honest, the special effects (or what puported to be them), wasn't the real problem -- the thing that the show could have used far more was a decent budget and a realistic recording schedule with post production facilities.
Special effects are pheripheral by their very nature -- indulgence to paint your story on a broader canvas. On "Dark Shadows", the viewer was presented with an interesting juxtaposition of the very bad and very good, often within the space of a single scene.
And that lets the show down far more than any hokey special effect.
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I don't have any knowledge that anyone has ignored you, attacked you, or invaded your privacy. Your decision to become a member, as well as to post, was by your choice.
[shadow=red,left,300]There were two specific incidents where I made comments or questions to Gothick and he did not acknolwedge them.[/shadow]
The owners of this forum don't profile users or seek to collect any information about them.
I believe that. However, members may want to do so. I know that if I personally wanted to profile someone, I could do so quite easily with that feature, and that scares me that others could do the same to me.
NO users of this forum are allowed to post from the same access using multiple identities, nor have they ever been on any forums I've moderated. I recommend that you remember your user name and continue to use it.
I just canceled it. As regards the multiple identities issue, I will just create a new identity and register it in a week or two. I will simply not post any true personal information about myself, so I will not have to worry about this issue.
No one behind these boards profiles, takes notes, seeks to abuse you, or has a vendetta against you.
What about people like ********? I recieved a threat from her in email. There aer always people out there watching.
I didn't remove that message; it's still in this topic.
I thought you did?
I've seen no proof that anyone has profiled you.
That is the sort of thing done in private by people like ****; it is not readily apparent.
As I said, please let me know if you want it removed from your post.
I would be grateful.
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Oh my. This looks like to be a most perplexing subject. Coming from a newbie to this board, as I obviously am, and truly not to offend anyone, which I don't, wished I'd been a fly on that wall - LOL
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>>I don't have any knowledge that anyone has ignored you, attacked you, or invaded your privacy. Your decision to become a member, as well as to post, was by your choice.<<
[shadow=red,left,300]There were two specific incidents where I made comments or questions to Gothick and he did not acknolwedge them.[/shadow]
That sounds like something that can be handled privately between you and the other poster. I know you're saying it because I said I wasn't aware of anyone ignoring you, but I do want to encourage that private issues between posters be handled privately.
>>The owners of this forum don't profile users or seek to collect any information about them.<<
I believe that. However, members may want to do so. I know that if I personally wanted to profile someone, I could do so quite easily with that feature, and that scares me that others could do the same to me.
I'd suggest, since this is your concern, that you share your personal information sparingly.
>>NO users of this forum are allowed to post from the same access using multiple identities, nor have they ever been on any forums I've moderated. I recommend that you remember your user name and continue to use it.<<
I just canceled it.
I was referring to the one you're using now.
As regards the multiple identities issue, I will just create a new identity and register it in a week or two.
I thought about suggesting that to you but I wasn't sure if you were interested in registering again. But I ask that in the meantime (meaning until you reregister), please please please stay as Albert Camus.
I will simply not post any true personal information about myself, so I will not have to worry about this issue.
I understand. I really do understand.
>>No one behind these boards profiles, takes notes, seeks to abuse you, or has a vendetta against you.<<
What about people like ********? I recieved a threat from her in email. There aer always people out there watching.
Sorry-- I made the stars, but you're accusing someone by name of making a threat toward you... in writing on this board. I'm not seeking to deride or correct you but to protect the board. AC, if no one here is making threats against you on or through this forum, I don't even want to know about it because it has nothing to do with these boards and therefore isn't my business. I can certainly sympathize with your desire and concern for personal safety and I think not sharing any more personal information here is a wise decision in light of your problems elsewhere.
>>I didn't remove that message; it's still in this topic.<<
I thought you did?
Nope.
>>I've seen no proof that anyone has profiled you. <<
That is the sort of thing done in private by people like ****; it is not readily apparent.
I talked about that above. And as you mentioned before, only members have access to profile information. That having been said, there's also a guideline about discussing the problems of other DS forums here; it was written to prevent fights and problems on other forums from spilling over to here. I do hear what you're saying about your concerns and I'm sorry you've encountered problems in fandom. If anyone uses these boards to harrass or attack you in any way, please let me know and I'll try to help. And I think that keeping personal info to yourself on this board is a good way for you to go.
>>As I said, please let me know if you want it removed from your post.<<
I would be grateful.
I'll do it right now.
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Count me among those of the "less is more" school as far as special effects are concerned.
I think why I keep going back to DS is because the fact that it is basically live theatre on tape gives it an edgy quality and dynamism that makes it unique. As I've said elsewhere, it creates its own category.
Entertainment today has become all about effect. Substance has gone by the wayside. One of the many reasons I feel strongly not in favor of remaking DS is that the kind of theatricality that made it so colorful and so compelling is no longer permitted in media entertainment, except for a small handful of visionary directors (Todd Haynes comes to mind as one).
Plus, the squeaky little toy bats are just so damned cute.
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I'm with you, Gothick, less IS more! I much prefer Alfred Hitchcock's way of doing special effects to today's show it all, and the redder the blood, the better!
Leaving what happens to the imagination of the viewer has always been the most effective way of movie-making. After all, most of us have vivid imaginations and no movie maker who dazzles with special effects can possibly do as well as what our own sick brains come up with, right?
DARK SHADOWS was at its best when subtle. The lousy shadow effect or the fake spider or the awful junk used in the upcoming Dream Curse didn't do a thing for me, then or now. But soon, we will see mere shadows on walls in a very chilling, effective scene on DS!
Love, Robin
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Leaving what happens to the imagination of the viewer has always been the most effective way of movie-making. After all, most of us have vivid imaginations and no movie maker who dazzles with special effects can possibly do as well as what our own sick brains come up with, right?
I'll agree that SOME of us have vivid imaginations, Robin...but then again, many of us obviously do not!! Perhaps those of us who are fans of this Gothic gem are more likely than most to have VERY vivid imaginations, but I don't think we should assume the same of everyone. In fact, I think the current popularity of guts and gore horror films says a great deal about the large number of people who have NO imagination whatsoever!
As Vlad says: (if I may paraphrase...) "Show me someone who is bored and I'll show you somone who has no imagination!"
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That sounds like something that can be handled privately between you and the other poster.
It is not a big deal. He is free to do as he pleases. It hurts me, but oh well.
I know you're saying it because I said I wasn't aware of anyone ignoring you, but I do want to encourage that private issues between posters be handled privately.
I'd suggest, since this is your concern, that you share your personal information sparingly.
Good idea. :)
Sorry-- I made the stars, but you're accusing someone by name of making a threat toward you... in writing on this board. I'm not seeking to deride or correct you but to protect the board. AC, if no one here is making threats against you on or through this forum, I don't even want to know about it because it has nothing to do with these boards and therefore isn't my business.
I was just saying that I know the moderators would never, ever collect information for vile purposes, but that there indeed those out there, namely the person I mentioned, who would do so.
I talked about that above. And as you mentioned before, only members have access to profile information.
Anyone can become a member. If they are banned, they simply need go to a public library, a university, an internet cafe (there is one or two where I live), or those such places.
I'll do it right now.
[shadow=red,left,300]Thank you. By the way, since I am already writing to you, how do you quote? [/shadow]
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Anyone can become a member. If they are banned, they simply need go to a public library, a university, an internet cafe (there is one or two where I live), or those such places.
Yes, all members are welcome. But if you have a problem that comes through this board, please let MB or myself know privately so that we can deal with it, but any resource we might have with which to do it isn't up for discussion.
[shadow=red,left,300]By the way, since I am already writing to you, how do you quote? [/shadow]
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To "Albert Camus" (or whoever you are) who said:
"Often when I go on gay.com, I will make up a new chat name each time for my protection."
Firstly, sorry for the blue post that upset you so--but it seems you had an over-reaction to it and to everything Midnight has been trying to explain to you.
As to the quote above, it seems to me that if you (or anyone else, including me!) is visiting gay.com, the general reason is quite different from your reason for posting on this board (especially if you're going into the chat rooms on gay.com.)
I've found this board and DS folks posting here to be very open and friendly to me (and others) who are gay. If you wish to change identities here to retain your anonymity, then maybe you have some issues about your admiration for DS and its actors and fans--certainly nothing to be ashamed of, in my opinion.
If you do have such issues as a DS fan, then I can't even imagine what issues would cause you to post under different names at gay.com.
But I'm more than willing to hear from you personally about this if you'd like to email me and open discussion.
In the meantime, let's keep this DS board to DS-related posts (even if my sexual orientation colors my post--and I don't mean blue font!) and PLEASE--don't argue with Midnight, who looks out for all of us.
Brian