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Re: ShadowGram Update #164
« Reply #45 on: January 30, 2007, 05:04:33 PM »
i thought alexandra isles was supposed to be this grand lady.her documentary films reek of noblesse oblige.  when did she ever have a job with a "break room"?that is so "nine-to-five".i just can't picture her on the frozen-yogurt-diet-snapple-iced-tea-circuit. :P

LOL!  For real!  I can't picture her sitting down in a breakroom w/a cup of coffee and a ciggie watching whatever STORY is on da tube w/her co-workers, LOL!  ;)
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Re: In Defense of Alexandra
« Reply #46 on: January 30, 2007, 05:50:20 PM »
I don't get fans who would be "angry" over an actor not coming to a festival or the anniversary.  These people have no idea what is going on in the private lives of any of these actors and other reasons that actor may not wish to be in the spotlight for even a weekend or a day.  These actors have real lives outside of work or their legacy on a show that goes on no matter what.  I know that Alexandra Moltke had a terrible time at one point, when it became known where she worked, fans just showing up not only at her work place but looking for her in the "break" room.  Perhaps that figures into her not wanting to be any more public than she already is.  Maybe she has other obligations, who knows?  But to actually be "angry" or resentful over it is beyond anything I understand.

Well, I certainly didn't say it was justified. It was just something I picked up on at the last festival. It is COMPLETELY unrealistic for fans to expect every single actor to show up for these events. Then again, there are those poor fans who just can't get a grip. I remember in L.A. two years ago, this one woman actually went into hysterics because James Storm cancelled! I mean, seriously -- she threw herself on the floor and screamed like a 3-year-old. Not very attractive in a 50-ish woman!


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Re: In Defense of Alexandra
« Reply #47 on: January 30, 2007, 05:56:15 PM »
Well, I certainly didn't say it was justified. It was just something I picked up on at the last festival. It is COMPLETELY unrealistic for fans to expect every single actor to show up for these events. Then again, there are those poor fans who just can't get a grip. I remember in L.A. two years ago, this one woman actually went into hysterics because James Storm cancelled! I mean, seriously -- she threw herself on the floor and screamed like a 3-year-old. Not very attractive in a 50-ish woman!

Maybe she just spend her last dime to go to the fest to see James Storm and that's what she was upset about.  [NO it wasn't ME]  Just guessing why a middle age woman would act that way.  Must have had a reason even though no one else knew what it was.  Sad, IMO.
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Re: In Defense of Alexandra
« Reply #48 on: January 30, 2007, 06:09:23 PM »
Then again, there are those poor fans who just can't get a grip. I remember in L.A. two years ago, this one woman actually went into hysterics because James Storm cancelled! I mean, seriously -- she threw herself on the floor and screamed like a 3-year-old. Not very attractive in a 50-ish woman!

She was no doubt mentally ill and perhaps has the mind of a 3 year old.  Hey, it's unfortunate but it happens in DS fandom.  Anyone who's been in it long enough knows that some of the fans just aren't 'all there'.   :-
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Re: In Defense of Alexandra
« Reply #49 on: January 30, 2007, 06:23:46 PM »
It is COMPLETELY unrealistic for fans to expect every single actor to show up for these events. Then again, there are those poor fans who just can't get a grip. I remember in L.A. two years ago, this one woman actually went into hysterics because James Storm cancelled! I mean, seriously -- she threw herself on the floor and screamed like a 3-year-old. Not very attractive in a 50-ish woman!

I have imagined going to the fest and being told that John Karlen couldn't make it. I know that to spend that kind of money to get there and be told that he wasn't gonna be there it would be a huge disappointment. I know I would cry [bawl] and all my DS friends would have to comfort me. I would be very upset. But I don't think I'd actually throw myself down on the floor and scream like a three year old. No that wouldn't really make a good impression. It's something people would remember.  :-[

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Re: ShadowGram Update #164
« Reply #50 on: January 30, 2007, 06:26:31 PM »
There's no telling what fans would do to get a minute alone--follow them to their room, interrupt their meals, follow them into the restroom, etc etc.
This is so true!
Unfortunately, I can also give an example of this type of behavior, and I've probably told the story before on this forum or one of its earlier incarnations.

At a fan event several years ago, I was singled out by David Selby while he was speaking. He was having some fun at my expense over the fact that the airline had lost my luggage. When the evening's activities were over, my roommates were socializing in our room. Because I had an exam the following Monday and because the lighting was actually better in the hallway, I was sitting on the floor outside the door studying.

A guy came up and asked me if our room was David Selby's room, and I told him it wasn't. Since I was trying to study, I didn't appreciate the interruption or the barrage of questions about what I did or didn't know about David Selby, and I think someone else from our group walked up around the same time. At any rate, it became obvious that the only way to be rid of this individual would be to go into the room, which we proceeded to do. However, this guy was absolutely certain we were hiding David Selby in our room and tried to peer in the door as we walked in. Hell, he practically tried to walk in behind us. I distinctly remember that hands and/or feet were in the way when we tried to shut the door behind us. Not pretty.

And as for fans asking tasteless questions, that happens too. A friend of mine, David Selby, and his publicist were standing at the back of the main ballroom at a Fest a few years ago waiting for the costume gala to finish up because he was going to watch Girl in Blue which they were showing afterward. A fan asked him first if I was his daughter. When he said that I wasn't, the next question the fan asked him was if I was his girlfriend. I honestly can't remember exactly what he said because I was trying not to fall in the floor laughing. During that same weekend, several people incorrectly assumed that David's publicist was his wife. When she told one fan that she wasn't his wife, before she could say that she was his publicist, the fan asked if she was his mistress. Tasteful, huh?


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Re: ShadowGram Update #164
« Reply #51 on: January 30, 2007, 06:43:07 PM »
Didn't Dante name one of his Rings of Hell "Celebrity"?

No?......I could have sworn....... >:D
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Re: ShadowGram Update #164
« Reply #52 on: January 30, 2007, 06:46:26 PM »
Lovely story about fan behavior toward Selby & Ms Criseyde!

Here's one:
a lot of people know that Louis Edmonds' acting swan song was in my film Next Year in Jerusalem (coming to DVD this summer, BTW)
Louis & I became friends after this.

Several fans offered me mony for his phone number!!!

After he passed away, someone posted graphic sexual messages about Louis & myself at another board!
And about other DS cast members & other fans!

Think that's bad?
In the eary 90s I was accused by A FEST COMMITTE MEMBER of masturbating in front of other fans!
In the late 90s, another commitee member asked me to make obscene phone calls to the homes of people in fandom that he didn't like!!!!!

This kind of crap has been going on for years, and those of us who speak up and demand better behavior are the ones who are condemed.!!!!

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Re: ShadowGram Update #164
« Reply #53 on: January 30, 2007, 11:31:40 PM »
Wow there are some scary and humorous stories out there about the fest. Now MsCriseyde you should have just asked the gentleman " Do you honestly think I would be sitting out here in the hall reading if David Selby were in my roon" >:D. At several fest I have seen people wandering the halls just knocking randomly on doors looking for Selby,KLS,John Karlan or any one of them really.
As far as the mean spirited stuff that is really unfortunate. Thankfully most fans are well intentioned and just enjoy the weekend for what it is. A big reunion of sorts. Thats how I look at it.
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Re: ShadowGram Update #164
« Reply #54 on: January 30, 2007, 11:55:04 PM »
That's just beyond inexcusable, David, both on the part of people asking you to compromise your professional and personal friendship with Louis Edmonds, and those committee members! I sincerely hope they are no longer associated with the festivals!

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Re: ShadowGram Update #164
« Reply #55 on: January 31, 2007, 12:06:53 AM »
Please don't share anything more that might further identify the committee members mentioned above.  Thanks!

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Re: ShadowGram Update #164
« Reply #56 on: January 31, 2007, 02:48:24 AM »
Now MsCriseyde you should have just asked the gentleman " Do you honestly think I would be sitting out here in the hall reading if David Selby were in my room."
Actually, I think I said that when we were talking about it amongst ourselves after we got rid of the guy, but I don't think he realized it was my room at the time.  :) Frankly, I was offended that anyone would think I would display such a supreme lack of taste as to camp outside someone's door, doing my homework, waiting for him to come out or in so that I could pounce.  ::) I have far more subtle and socially appropriate techniques.  ;)


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Re: ShadowGram Update #164
« Reply #57 on: January 31, 2007, 05:53:23 PM »
Hi all wish we did hear some news about the FEST.   Hopefully soon...
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Re: ShadowGram Update #164
« Reply #58 on: January 31, 2007, 06:56:59 PM »
For anyone to be "angry" at her for not being a natural is in that kind of atmosphere is like faulting someone for not being a whiz at math.  You either are that or you are not.

Absolutely! I think it's great that so many of the actors show up year after year and would love to see Alexandra at one of the fests.  But, I don't find it difficult to understand why someone would be hesitant to dive into a huge crowd of fans...regardless of their temperament or inclination to make kind OR stupid remarks.  I can't imagine doing it myself.  Just because she was on a television show many years ago doesn't mean that she's obligated to the fans of that show for the rest of her life.
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Re: ShadowGram Update #164
« Reply #59 on: January 31, 2007, 09:03:53 PM »
     Well said, Castlebee.
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