DARK SHADOWS FORUMS
General Discussions => Current Talk Archive => Current Talk '24 I => Current Talk '06 II => Topic started by: dvlvan26 on November 21, 2006, 05:01:12 PM
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Hi Cousins!
Name a scene that was a worst scene for DS.
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Hey, you first!
I block out the awkwardnesses and apparently succeed in forgetting them. There are whole storylines but that doesn't count. BC going "No! It can't BE!!", probably in response to [spoiler]a vision of Julia's grave in 1840,[/spoiler] comes to mind, but JF wasn't thrilled with that line either I'd guess.
Any scene with BC terrorizing JH prior to 1795.
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I think the scenes with Julia & Barnabas as enemies do work.
It's always interesting to see relationships between characters change over a period of time, that's what makes good drama.
JF & GH played those changes beautifully.
Things that don't work:
the end of 1840, which made no sense & had really bad lines, like:
Stokes: "Well, there's food in the fridge, and that's a encouraging sign!"
And the sudden "Barnabas & Angelique in love" twist was absurd!
David
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In 1897, when David has "the dream" and relates it to Barnabas. It takes the whole episode, and I just found the whole thing very annoying. The worst part was that every other epoisode in that entire DVD set was awesome, so that episode/scene really stands out like a sore thumb.
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the sudden "Barnabas & Angelique in love" twist was absurd!
I totally agree, that has to be THE worst story twist of the show... [spoiler]Barnabas deciding Angelique was the only woman he truly loved. Hello Barnabas, this is the woman who destroyed nearly all of your family back in 1795!(or 1796 or 1797 or whatever).[/spoiler]
And there are many things I didn't like about the 1970 Parallel Time story, but especially the marriage of Quentin and Maggie always bothered me. I always hated the way Quentin treated Maggie and was too damn suspicious of her most of the time. For someone who supposed loved his new wife more than his first one he was all too ready to believe the worse of her on the flimsiest of evidence. And Maggie didn't exactly give him the benefit of the doubt at times either.
And another one: [spoiler]when we learn from the ghost of Peter Bradford that Jeb Hawkes pushed Victoria Winters off Widows' Hill....this was an OUTRAGE!!!! Why oh why did they have to throw that in? Why couldn't they have left the conclusion of the Peter/Vicki story as it was?[/spoiler]
Last but not least I know I am beating a dead horse with this one, but I feel many of you will agree with me on this, [spoiler]the unjustifable and unnecessary murder of Carl Collins at the hands of Barnabas! I will scream it from the top of my lungs: Barnabas WHY NOT JUST PUT CARL UNDER YOUR POWER?! YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO KILL HIM!!![/spoiler]
These to me qualify as DS' worst scenes.
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I think one of the WORST scenes ever was the scene where Megan Todd, in the Leviathan storyline, was running around in her shop at night getting scared of various animal heads and the clock chiming. Her acting was so over-the-top and awful when she did it at the end of one episode. It was only slightly better in the recap of it during the teaser of the next episode. Probably Marie's worst scene ever.
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It didn't even make sense, did it?
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I didn't like anything that Peter/Jeff was in. And I didn't like anything that Burke Devlin. I just hated the way he "burst in to somebody else's house." That just irk's me.
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I'll keep it simple: 1968 stroryline, Harry Johnson vs Nicholas Blair. [hall2_tongue]
Petofi
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It didn't even make sense, did it?
That would be no, no, and oh yea, no. I actually found the entire thing quite comical instead of frightening, so obviously the needed effect was not achieved.
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unless that maddening "camp" theory some people have about DS is for real.
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I think one of the WORST scenes ever was the scene where Megan Todd, in the Leviathan storyline, was running around in her shop at night getting scared of various animal heads and the clock chiming. Her acting was so over-the-top and awful when she did it at the end of one episode. It was only slightly better in the recap of it during the teaser of the next episode. Probably Marie's worst scene ever.
i must confess i loved this scene. :-X
by this point the storyline was so over-the-top i sort of got into it.
if i'm remembering this correctly in this scene(or one very closed to it)megan(who's so tightly wound at this point she's ready to snap)decides she needed to try and "calm down" by finishing her cup of coffee(served in those brown and orange earthenware mugs i just spotted at the evans cottage during the laura collins story).
i was so like,megan,if you want to try and calm down have a cup of tea...or a glass of wine...or smoke some weed or pop a valium but do not try to calm down by drinking coffee!
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I have to admit that I did warm slightly to the scene during the second go-round which was shown as the teaser of the very next episode. Only slightly, mind you. I thought it was quite comical when she excitedly flipped through the phone book to find the number for pharmacy so she could find out if Phillip was on his way back from getting cigarettes yet. I was laughing both times they showed that scene, during that part of it.
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I couldn't watch most of the Adam experiment stuff. I was extremely dissappointed at the obvious copying of "Frankenstein" and sad to see poor Barnabas repeating "experiment" over and over again and see him lying down on those ridiculous medical beds down in the Old House. And especially after the high-quality work done by everyone in 1795 and early Barnabas.
I'd say ANYTHING to do with the Adam/Barnabas experiments. No-one to blame but the writing team. Simply awful!
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Any scene with Laura Collins in 1897. Woman was a world-class bitch, yo! This was my first go-round, so I didn't want to miss anything. But whenever I saw that she was going to be in an episode, I inwardly cringed. That voice, that mole, the condescending attitude! I was so happy when she met her fiery demise. When I finish the 1897 storyline, and write up a full report on my first impressions, I'll have to include my dislike for anything Laura in 1897. At least Angelique was happy and seductive when she was being mean to others. Laura was just mean and miserable.
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Other than the scene where [spoiler]he introduces Angelique to his friend (and her old enemy) Nicholas Blair[/spoiler] I also find any scene with Sky Rumson a trip to dullsville. Likewise Randall Drew. These guys were so wooden, a woodpecker would have a field day with them!
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sad to see poor Barnabas repeating "experiment" over and over again and see him lying down on those ridiculous medical beds down in the Old House.
Hmmm... Didn't they only repeat the first experiment once? They did it the first time but [spoiler]Lang was accidentally killed by Cassandra.[/spoiler] And then when they repeated it, it was successful. (And it all took place in Lang's lab both times. :)) But I suppose they did repeat both instances at the end of an episode and then as the teaser of the following episode. ;)
Any scene with Laura Collins in 1897.
OMG, I LOVE 1897 Laura! Diana Millay gives an extremely witty performance throughout. And the scene in which [spoiler]Quentin writhes in agony while Laura glibly recounts the story of her "death" in Alexandria[/spoiler]is among my favorites in the 1897 storyline.
Woman was a world-class bitch, yo!
For me that's one of the best things about her! ;D
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Other than the scene where [spoiler]he introduces Angelique to his friend (and her old enemy) Nicholas Blair[/spoiler] I also find any scene with Sky Rumson a trip to dullsville.
"ANNNN - JUHHH - LEEEK!" [hall2_grin]
Petofi
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I love 1897 Laura Collins as well. Diana gave a truly marvelous performance in that role. It seemed like the first part of 1897 was spent getting about 10 different plot lines started, while not really devoting much time to any of them. The whole Laura Collins thing was really nice in that they were finally spending some time on a single plot and taking it to its conclusion.
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I consider there to be a lesson to be learned in the story of Sky Rumson, which I plan to write and entitle, "Sky Rumson: The Chisel-Jawed Dreamboat Shows His True Stripes". It's a cautionary tale for all naive, doe-eyed manipulative witches everywhere. A comedian wrote a song a few years ago called "Chicks Dig Jerks". Same general idea.
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I consider there to be a lesson to be learned in the story of Sky Rumson, which I plan to write and entitle, "Sky Rumson: The Chisel-Jawed Dreamboat Shows His True Stripes". It's a cautionary tale for all naive, doe-eyed manipulative witches everywhere. A comedian wrote a song a few years ago called "Chicks Dig Jerks". Same general idea.
Wow, I sure am quoting you a lot here lately. Maybe you SHOULD write that book after all. And I'm just here to say....boy is THAT ever true.
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sad to see poor Barnabas repeating "experiment" over and over again and see him lying down on those ridiculous medical beds down in the Old House.
Hmmm... Didn't they only repeat the first experiment once? They did it the first time but [spoiler]Lang was accidentally killed by Cassandra.[/spoiler] And then when they repeated it, it was successful. (And it all took place in Lang's lab both times. :)) But I suppose they did repeat both instances at the end of an episode and then as the teaser of the following episode. ;)
I've been meaning to post about this very thing. I didn't like sitting through the Barnabas/Adam experiment twice, but I was even more irritated with having to get through the Eve experiment what, like three times? I forget who was first, Carolyn or Angelique, and then FINALLY Leona. It reminds me of when Liz [spoiler]is first pronounced dead, then comes back, and then later is pronounced dead again![/spoiler] Grrrr! [hall2_angry]
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i'm with those that absolutely love diana millay.
her laura collins is such a menace!both her 1966 and 1897 storylines are amongst the best written i think.the writers seemed to really have a sense of this character and diana brought it to life.
she's a very different type of villianess than angelique.ang is more vulnerable and sexy and reacts more emotionally to things.laura is more cold and calculating.
i found this character to be mesmerizing the minute she first walked into the collinsport diner(in a hat and gloves!).even without the whole supernatural element she was someone i was intrigued by and for a character that was only with the show for a total of about seven months she really made a lasting impression.
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Wow, I sure am quoting you a lot here lately. Maybe you SHOULD write that book after all. And I'm just here to say....boy is THAT ever true.
Thanks!
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When Eric Lang is going to do the experiment, he asks barnabas if he would like Jeff Clark's face, and Barnabas promptly agrees, simply for the fact that he thinks it will make Vicki fall in love with him just because he looks like Clark. To me that is so superficial! It just makes me want to shake Barnabas. [santa_angry]
Also, during the experiment, the constant crackling of electricity from the machine drove me mad!
I know I've said this in previous posts, but Jerimiah's ghost returning to plague Barnabas and getting jealous because he thinks Barnabas took Josette away from him, when Jerimiah never even loved her in life. In death he should have realized what was going on. Why was he making such a ridiculous accusation? [santa_huh]
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Barnabas at least came to his senses about using Jeff's face in the experiment when he hears Vicki talking with Lang, he's very affected by the worry and concern she shows for Jeff that he changes his mind. He was wrong in deciding to use Jeff's face in the first place but that can be attibuted to another of Barnabas' rash decisions that was spurred by jealousy except this time no one had to change his mind about it or try and talk him out of it, he did it entirely on his own, which is a rarity with him.
As far as the ghost of Jeremiah is concerned, I think he was just doing what Angelique ordered him to do. I think that eventually Jeremiah's spirit started to resent Angelique for bringing him back from the grave to do her bidding (and who could blame him) and this is what caused him to turn on her.
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I guess Angelique's spells keep working after death. We know she could summon up Jeremiah. So she can affect ghosts. He still thinks he loves Josette.