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Re: Vampire Angelique's Reflection
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2008, 12:29:42 AM »
But we don't see his clothes either.

I've always wondered about that in vampiredom.  Okay, so you can't see their reflections in mirrors, but why not their clothes?  They should all look like the invisible man.  Now, take for example, Barnabas' cane.  Does it vanish when he's holding it, but suddenly appear when he puts it down?  What about his cape-coat?  When he takes it off and hangs it up, does it appear?  What if he (or any vampire, for that matter) touches a piece of furniture?  Will it vanish?  Just what are the rules about this anyway?

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Re: Vampire Angelique's Reflection
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2008, 01:29:52 AM »
Curtis's Law of Vampire Reflections states, "Shut up and pretend you didn't see anything."
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Re: Vampire Angelique's Reflection
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2008, 02:33:34 AM »
I always wondered how in the heck could Angelique see herself in mirrors once she had become a vampire? Maybe she was a bit half-witch/half-vampire and her witchy side enabled her to see herself and use Nicholas' mirror? [ghost_huh] I'm stretching here, I know. [ghost_undecided]

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Re: Vampire Angelique's Reflection
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2008, 08:59:23 AM »
I was wondering about that myself. Although she was a vampire, maybe Nicolas did'nt take away all
of her witching powers.

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Re: Vampire Angelique's Reflection
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2008, 10:24:16 AM »
It wasn't a real, normal, physical mirror.   It was a magical device which didn't work by reflecting light, but by supernaturally depicting the user or the desired target.  How 'bout that one?    Anyone salutring that one?
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Re: Vampire Angelique's Reflection
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2008, 03:33:57 PM »
That works for Nicholas's Magic Mirror, but Jeff shouldn't have been able to see Angelique in the lab's mirror.
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Re: Vampire Angelique's Reflection
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2008, 03:36:59 PM »
Also since Angelique apparently maintained some time-travel powers after becoming a vampire, I don't see why she didn't travel back to a few weeks earlier and prevent herself from becoming a vampire. 
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Re: Vampire Angelique's Reflection
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2008, 03:52:58 PM »
That whole mirror thing needs to be revamped anyway. I can understand a vampire not have a reflection but the clothing should be there.  [ghost_rolleyes]
I doubt that the imagination can be suppressed. If you truly eradicated it in a child, he would grow up to be an eggplant.

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Re: Vampire Angelique's Reflection
« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2008, 04:12:09 PM »
There is the possibility that some kind of anti-reflection chemical ekes out of vampires onto their clothing.
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Re: Vampire Angelique's Reflection
« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2008, 04:35:27 PM »
Now there is something that I haven't thought of. [ghost_rolleyes]
I doubt that the imagination can be suppressed. If you truly eradicated it in a child, he would grow up to be an eggplant.

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Re: Vampire Angelique's Reflection
« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2008, 04:49:56 PM »
Think of the problems that could result from Barnabas lending someone his coat.  [ghost_tongue2]
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Re: Vampire Angelique's Reflection
« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2008, 05:25:10 PM »
Barnabas exhibited non-vampire related supernatural powers (think his Magic-Number-Of-The-Universe and using the Egyptian Book of the Dead to summon Laura Stockbridge Collins' spirit), so being a vampire doesn't preclude someone from commanding mystical powers, just as being a human doesn't (think Quentin and Stokes).

And so far as Angelique's time traveling powers went, recall that she needed Nicholas' medallion for that, so apparently the power was all in the medallion, and all someone need do was harness it.

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Re: Vampire Angelique's Reflection
« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2008, 10:25:37 PM »
That whole mirror thing needs to be revamped anyway. I can understand a vampire not have a reflection but the clothing should be there.  [ghost_rolleyes]

Not when you're dealing with the supernatural.   The Invisible Man may have had to follow straighforward logic, but magic deals with essences, and what's meaningful and significant, not substances, light rays and molecules.   The meaningful "you" is you with characteristic clothes, you as you see yourself in the mirror, what "you" are to yourself and others.    You can't apply even simple physics to magic.
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Re: Vampire Angelique's Reflection
« Reply #28 on: July 10, 2008, 05:49:23 PM »
for all the enquiring minds: 

most of vampire lore was started by Bram Stoker in Dracula.   vampire stories legends and lore that were written before dracula never dealt with those facts.   stoker made up the rule about mirrors, daylight etc for his book.   

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Re: Vampire Angelique's Reflection
« Reply #29 on: July 10, 2008, 06:22:36 PM »
As everyone knows, Dark Shadows' timeline is constantly in flux. I'm proposing that several people went back to when vampires were first created and altered their process of creation enough to change the mirror bit to "reflections on" or "reflections off," and this happened repeatedly. Plausible within the realm of DS, no?
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