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Title: Discuss - Ep #0894_0895
Post by: Watching Project on November 30, 2009, 10:12:20 PM
Robservations #894_895
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0894_0895
Post by: MagnusTrask on December 01, 2009, 12:09:51 PM
#894:

Philip's "... and kill!" is no better this time.   Cut to a reaction shot of a statue of a cougar.... he's shocked!   Phil kills a minute fondling and lusting after the Box, while Meg is upstairs checking on the baby.

The Todds' old and new mental worlds just joined seamlessly.... they go straight from speaking in hushed tones about the destiny of the Leviathan people, into banter about the Hitchcock chair, and how it will be their dream come true.

Maggie's redoing the cottage?  What cottage?  Will she live there?

At cairn... Philip:  "I've been this way a dozen times."   On fire?!    This reminded me that Nepal just had a huge event with hundreds of animal sacrifices.   Seems to me the animals are making the sacrifice, so I hope they're reaping the posthumous benefits.

Marie Wallace is great at crazed terror.  We believe it.   "My killer is on his way!!" might sound silly from someone else, but it's a real jolt coming from her.   Cliffhanger...  who is it?  Maybe... Garth Blackwood??   Wouldn't it be a kick if Garth appeared now, and swept through 1969 Collinsport strangling everybody just like he just did in 1897?

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Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0894_0895
Post by: Lydia on December 01, 2009, 12:29:30 PM
The Todds' old and new mental worlds just joined seamlessly.... they go straight from speaking in hushed tones about the destiny of the Leviathan people, into banter about the Hitchcock chair, and how it will be their dream come true.
Yeah, I love that.

I'm wondering exactly where the Leviathan altar is.  But it's a silly question, since the Collinwood estate doesn't exist and there is no definitive map of it.  I've always feel that the front doors of Collinwood and the Old House both face eastward and that the Old House is north of Collinwood, but I keep getting the idea from the show that, assuming both front doors face eastward, the Old House is south of Collinwood - but that just feels wrong to me.
 
I loved the flat angry tone in which Carolyn shouted "David!" when she couldn't get into the drawing room.
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0894_0895
Post by: Midnite on December 01, 2009, 04:30:08 PM
Magnus, #894/5 is a single episode, and the 2nd part of your comments seem to be for #896.
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0894_0895
Post by: MagnusTrask on December 02, 2009, 01:29:45 PM
Why two numbers for the same episode, Midnite?
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0894_0895
Post by: Robot_Quentin on December 02, 2009, 04:32:26 PM
I always figured it was that the 2 separate episodes had to be combined into one because the end of one, or the beginning of another was either lost or damaged.  [santa_undecided] Perhaps that was an assumption on my part...
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0894_0895
Post by: Midnite on December 02, 2009, 05:37:06 PM
Several times during the run of the series, more than one number was assigned to an episode to make up for pre-emptions.  (During the first couple of years, a few numbers were simply skipped.)  For this one, it could have been for the previous week's 11/24 pre-emption for the Apollo 12 mission landing or the 11/27 pre-emption by football on Thanksgiving.  But they got caught up later when #919_920_921 was assigned.

Thanks for reposting, Magnus!
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0894_0895
Post by: Taeylor Collins on December 06, 2009, 03:59:10 AM
VO:JB

The log baby makes it's first appearance!  

Does anyone (who originally watched the show) remember when they quit watching the show precisley or what part of the Leviathan the storyline that made you quit watching?

Regardless of his attitude towards acting little DH was a fabulous actor and I think if he had wanted  he would have went far with his career!  I think he is particularly good in these scenes.

Barnabas is freakin' me out as he looks sinister as hell.

"You speak of time my children.  There is only one time for us.  The time of the Leviathan people!" Barnabas

 I like those lines! Very hautning!

Joan looks as if she has changed her hair a bit.

Has anyone ever seen a Hithcock chair? Is it a real type of chair?  I suppose I could google it but that is too easy!

So unless one is a Leviathan they can't see The Altar? Does that make Carolyn and Paul Leviathans already?

I still have to say that The Altar is very cool and mysterious! I just love it!

Barnabas is cold as can be but I love how JF is playing him.  I wish more people would have.

Do any of you like The Leviathan episodes more watching them as adults than when you were children/teens?
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0894_0895
Post by: Taeylor Collins on December 06, 2009, 04:06:46 AM
I think I may have made a mistake as well and posted the wrong thing in the wrong forum.  The double number ep's thing confused me too.  If I have I ask the mods to forgive my error! And I will do better.  I am sorry if this is the case!
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0894_0895
Post by: Midnite on December 06, 2009, 04:46:31 AM
Hopefully, someone can point out what parts don't match up because it looks right to me, but I haven't watched the ep in a long time.  Yet isn't there a scene here in which the chair is shown and talked about?
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0894_0895
Post by: MagnusTrask on December 06, 2009, 05:10:45 AM
Maybe the Hitchcock chair was the one Tony Perkins' mother was sitting in during that classic film moment when she whirled around and showed us all her lovely puss.    Actually we did get a brief look at the chair at the Old House, but I forget which episode.

"Log baby"... suddenly we're in Twin Peaks!   
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0894_0895
Post by: Robot_Quentin on December 06, 2009, 03:28:39 PM
"Log baby"... suddenly we're in Twin Peaks!   

The Nagas are not what they seem!
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0894_0895
Post by: Midnite on December 07, 2009, 12:50:13 AM
Hopefully, someone can point out what parts don't match up

Or not.  Anyway, "the log baby" (lol) first showed up in #893.  Maybe that's what you were referring to?
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0894_0895
Post by: Taeylor Collins on December 07, 2009, 08:24:07 AM
I must have numbered my review wrong! Thankfully I got DVD sets 18 & 19 yesterday and I will be set for a while with the numbers on the menu to help guide me.  I am not trying to make excuses but mind has been heavy lately with some life things but I am trying to keep up with the WP because I just love to chat DS with you guys.  It takes me out of the real world and helps me disappear into the shadows.  Thanks for excusing my mistake and I don't think it will happen again since I do have the Menu's on the DVD to go by. There are not many boards in cyberspace with so many nice and civilized people and I am beyond thankful for all of you.  [8_2_59]
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0894_0895
Post by: Lydia on December 07, 2009, 12:19:30 PM
Has anyone ever seen a Hithcock chair?
I've seen six Hitchcock chairs repeatedly, around the dining table in my house as I was growing up.  They've never been refinished, so they're very unshiny.

The chair that Philip and Megan coveted was sitting in the middle of the foyer of the Old House for one scene.  I think it was before Barnabas took Philip to see the Leviathan altar.  It didn't look exactly like my family's Hitchcock chairs, but it looked as though it could well have been made by the same people, though I don't know anything about furniture.

There used to be a Hitchcock store a few miles from where I live.  It seemed to me that I hadn't noticed it lately, but that could have been me just not seeing things (I'm good at that), so I checked on-line, and learned that the Hitchcock people stopped making furniture in 2006.
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0894_0895
Post by: Midnite on December 08, 2009, 08:30:28 AM
This is a weird one.  We're told that David and Carolyn are "pieces in an awesome puzzle," yet what we get from him are brattiness and spite, and from his cousin-- an apparent unwillingness to share her father with her mother and a preoccupation with curtains.  The voiceovers repeat that a horrific evil threatens the family, yet their conflicts seem to be the stuff of standard soap fare.  Yet at the same time, the proprietors of the village shop are literally being terrorized.

David:  "I snitched it."
Did we really say that back then?

Swaddling a feverish baby in a wool blanket?  That's about as brilliant as letting a vitally important book lie around where strangers come and go, or leaving the upstairs room (that you promised to keep hidden from prying eyes) unlocked and unguarded.

Maggie's redoing the cottage?  What cottage?  Will she live there?
The cottage that she and Pop occupied.  There are renters in it now.

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At cairn... Philip:  "I've been this way a dozen times."   On fire?!
Snort.

"Log baby"... suddenly we're in Twin Peaks!
The Nagas are not what they seem!
Ha!

Actually we did get a brief look at the chair at the Old House, but I forget which episode.
As Lydia said, it's this one.  Philip carries it downstairs and sets it down in the Old House foyer.
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0894_0895
Post by: MagnusTrask on December 08, 2009, 12:31:22 PM
The only puzzle in the locale seems to be the one with all those missing pieces that David tried to hide Le Book in the box of....

David:  "I snitched it."
Did we really say that back then?
  Did anyone say that ever?  


Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0894_0895
Post by: Mysterious Benefactor on December 08, 2009, 01:52:13 PM
Yes, we did.  [santa_smiley]
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0894_0895
Post by: MagnusTrask on December 09, 2009, 05:06:21 PM
I just remember "snitching", telling on someone.
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0894_0895
Post by: Taeylor Collins on December 09, 2009, 05:26:22 PM
That certainly must have been 60's language because I had never heard someone use "snitched" for "steal!"  [candycanes]
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0894_0895
Post by: Lydia on December 09, 2009, 11:03:38 PM
Never?  Gosh, I still sometimes use snitch for steal - or, more likely, to take sneakily.  If Mrs. Johnson were baking cookies, I might snitch some cookie dough while she was taking a cigarette break - or I might not, if her cookies were anything like her New England boiled dinner.
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0894_0895
Post by: Taeylor Collins on December 10, 2009, 12:57:01 AM
Never!  However, that is what I like about DS it teaches me new things all the time.  Especially words!! :0)
Title: Re: Discuss - Ep #0894_0895
Post by: IluvBarnabas on March 01, 2010, 03:25:01 AM
Is anyone surprised that David wouldn't keep his mouth shut about Carolyn and 'Mr. Prescott'? How many of us at his age wouldn't have sold out a younger or older brother, sister or cousin to keep ourselves out of trouble?

I think Carolyn, whether she likes it or not, knows she is going to have to tell her mother who her new 'beau' really , sooner than she'd like...surely she knows that Elizabeth or more likely Roger would have him checked on.

Barnabas indeed is very chilling in these episodes. I wonder if JF relished playing 'bad' Barnabas again...I know I relish watching him during this period.