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« on: May 06, 2021, 07:44:08 PM »
If you don't want to know the circumstances surrounding Tuesday's entry in this slideshow, then don't read any further...
[spoiler]Tuesday's quote:
Eps #459 & #661 (1796) - Joshua - 'You have caused enough destruction. You MUST NOT cause more.'
The reason that quote is attributed to two different eps is because it was originally said in Ep #459 -
From "#0459/0460: Robservations 04/26/02: Finale"
- as well as in Ep #661 as part of a flashback when Barnabas was explaining to Julia about the events of his last day in 1796 -
From "Robservations 9/24/02 - #660-661 - A Trip Back to the Past"
And we can definitely see that Robin didn't simply copy what she'd already written for the Robservations for Ep #459 when she did the one for Ep #661 because they're different. In fact, the quote is referenced much better in the Robservations for Ep #661 than it is in the one for Ep #459...
And there's a good reason that the Robservations for Ep #661 makes no reference to Ben bursting into the drawing room to reveal Vicki is gone or to Barnabas and Joshua deducing that Nathan must have taken her in order to collect the price on Vicki's head - it's because all of that was edited out. At first one might suspect it was cut so that Thayer David wouldn't have to be paid for appearing in the ep, but he does appear in two other flashback scenes, so that's not it. So, the edit may have simply been made for time or to tighten up the focus on how Joshua planned to destroy Barnabas. But, considering that the whole point of Barnabas explaining the 1796 events is because he wants to travel back in time to save Vicki, it might have been a nice touch to remind the audience how Nathan had taken Vicki. But then again, given that after Vicki returned to the present Barnabas only recalled the events of 1796 as they originally occurred with Phyllis Wick and he greatly feared what had happened when Vicki took Phyllis' place, perhaps they decided to get rid of all references to Vicki so as to remain within that narrative for Barnabas. It might be amazing if so because, as we all know, DS was never one to adhere to continuity. But who knows? The only thing that's certain is what was cut from the scene for the flashback...
[spoiler]Tuesday's quote:
Eps #459 & #661 (1796) - Joshua - 'You have caused enough destruction. You MUST NOT cause more.'
The reason that quote is attributed to two different eps is because it was originally said in Ep #459 -
From "#0459/0460: Robservations 04/26/02: Finale"
The curse must be ended, insists Joshua, and he'll do it. He can't allow this to go on any longer, anymore people to die--he must destroy him, but he couldn't drive a stake through his heart. There's another way, says Joshua, a silver bullet fired directly into his heart will do the job. He learned this in Boston. He must destroy him, and if Barnabas has any human feeling left, he'll let him do it. He's sent Riggs into town to have a silver candelabra turned into 6 bullets, and he will use those bullets to destroy him. Barnabas asks where Forbes is, and Joshua is about to respond when Ben burst in--Vicki is gone! Search the grounds, orders Joshua. Barn asks if there's a price on Vicki's head, and they both realize Nathan took her to get the money. He must die, insists Barnabas, but Joshua doesn't want that. He's responsible for Naomi's death, says Barnabas, but Joshua doesn't want his son committing anymore destruction.This will be his one last act, says Barnabas, "and one which will give me enormous pleasure." Joshua can't stop him--no one can. Barnabas walks out, leaving Joshua absolutely miserable.
- as well as in Ep #661 as part of a flashback when Barnabas was explaining to Julia about the events of his last day in 1796 -
From "Robservations 9/24/02 - #660-661 - A Trip Back to the Past"
Joshua insists the curse must be ended. Barnabas tells him it cannot be ended, but Joshua says it will, and he will do it--I can't allow more people to die--I must destroy you. Joshua can't bring himself to driving a stake through his son's heart, although Barnabas says it's the only way. No, says Joshua, silver bullets fired directly into your heart will destroy you--I learned this in Boston from an ancient volume of witchcraft--destruction will be instantaneous. His voice ragged with unshed tears, Joshua says, "I must destroy you! If you have any human feeling left, you will not try to stop me." I sent Riggs to town with a silver candelabra to have six bullets made--I will fire those bullets into your heart. Barnabas asks of Forbes' whereabouts--he must die! Joshua begs him not to do this. Barnabas doesn't understand why he wants to allow the blackguard to live--if not for him, Naomi would still be alive!--you should hate him as much as I do. Joshua protests it isn't Forbes that concerns him, but Barnabas--my son has caused enough destruction and must not cause more. Barnabas promises this will be his one last act of destruction--and one that will give me enormous pleasure. Joshua begs him not to do it, but Barnabas says he can't stop him, no one can.[/spoiler]
And we can definitely see that Robin didn't simply copy what she'd already written for the Robservations for Ep #459 when she did the one for Ep #661 because they're different. In fact, the quote is referenced much better in the Robservations for Ep #661 than it is in the one for Ep #459...
And there's a good reason that the Robservations for Ep #661 makes no reference to Ben bursting into the drawing room to reveal Vicki is gone or to Barnabas and Joshua deducing that Nathan must have taken her in order to collect the price on Vicki's head - it's because all of that was edited out. At first one might suspect it was cut so that Thayer David wouldn't have to be paid for appearing in the ep, but he does appear in two other flashback scenes, so that's not it. So, the edit may have simply been made for time or to tighten up the focus on how Joshua planned to destroy Barnabas. But, considering that the whole point of Barnabas explaining the 1796 events is because he wants to travel back in time to save Vicki, it might have been a nice touch to remind the audience how Nathan had taken Vicki. But then again, given that after Vicki returned to the present Barnabas only recalled the events of 1796 as they originally occurred with Phyllis Wick and he greatly feared what had happened when Vicki took Phyllis' place, perhaps they decided to get rid of all references to Vicki so as to remain within that narrative for Barnabas. It might be amazing if so because, as we all know, DS was never one to adhere to continuity. But who knows? The only thing that's certain is what was cut from the scene for the flashback...