DARK SHADOWS FORUMS
General Discussions => Current Talk Archive => Current Talk '24 I => Current Talk '05 I => Topic started by: jimbo on May 06, 2005, 12:00:21 AM
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I just received in the mail today the 2005 DS Festival membership application and it reflects that a potential new DS movie and other projects are being planned. I have not been at the board recently but has anyone heard anything about this?
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We have heard nothing here, so far as I am aware. I, for one, have learnt to take what is printed in those announcement brochures with a couple good shakes of salt.
Vengeance at Collinwood sounds like it'll be fun. I wonder whether Jamison Selby is doing the script?
G.
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Vengeance at Collinwood sounds like it'll be fun. I wonder whether Jamison Selby is doing the script?
I'm doing it. It's about Julia finally getting back at Barnabas for never "giving her any" and always taking her for granted.
::)
No seriously....I didn't notice anything in that announcement. Maybe I didn't get the same mailing as others (?).
(Yeah - mine said "Don't Come!") heh heh
8)
Sorry....I'll get lost.
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We have heard nothing here, so far as I am aware. I, for one, have learnt to take what is printed in those announcement brochures with a couple good shakes of salt.
I know what you mean. It seems every year there is a "proposed" DS series or movie although we came soooo close with the WB proposed TV series. So who knows but I feel in my bones something actually may be happening. To answer Connie's question, the announcement about the potential DS movie can be found on the membership application page (received in the mail) directly below where it says 2005 Dark Shadows Official Fan Club Update.
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Oh yeah! I found it!
Whoa....I wonder what THAT means!
Rather cryptic.
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Oh yeah! I found it!
Whoa....I wonder what THAT means!
Rather cryptic.
I like the "cryptic" tag.
I don't know if the "potential" DS movie statement falls under the 'a new DS movie/series is always in development' context or if the DS producers are shopping a new script to the movie studios. The language is indeed cryptic; intentionally of course. lol
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I got the mailing today. A DS movie could be really cool if handled by people who would understand the series and the characters. I'm leaning toward Tim Burton, if he does it seriously.
Hopefully they'll announce something soon.
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I don't know if the "potential" DS movie statement falls under the 'a new DS movie/series is always in development' context or if the DS producers are shopping a new script to the movie studios. The language is indeed cryptic; intentionally of course. lol
Well, there are peoples on here who know some peoples, who could find out from some peoples....(yeah - that's what it was). lol ....find out what that statement is supposed to mean exactly.
[hdscrt]
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Well, there are peoples on here who know some peoples, who could find out from some peoples....(yeah - that's what it was). lol ....find out what that statement is supposed to mean exactly.
That is true but these peoples probably are not permitted by the other peoples to say anything to us about the potential new DS Movie to us peoples. lol
I was just thinking-another scary thought, why Shadowgram did not report same in its last recent email update which would have been more current than the mailings we received? I mean is it possible that the Dark Shadows Festival would intentionally withhold information from Shadowgram? Obviously they may have different sources of information but you would think it would be shared for the benefit of its fans?? ?? ?
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A piece of friendly advice...
If any future project regarding "Dark Shadows" gets to a stage worthy of discussion, chances are the DS Festival won't be the first place you hear about it.
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A piece of friendly advice...
If any future project regarding "Dark Shadows" gets to a stage worthy of discussion, chances are the DS Festival won't be the first place you hear about it.
Well, that certainly makes sense.
I'm settling for the scenario of whoever typed up that Fest flyer may have had a few martinis beforehand. LOL [sure] ...ahem
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Yeah Stuart, I was afraid of that. Just wish they would not tease us like that. Haven't we been tortured enough through the years?
Maybe Connie is right too. lol
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Haven't we been tortured enough through the years?
You've been TORTURED?? :o
Aw....don't say that. This notion pains me to no end. lol
[wavey]
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Haven't we been tortured enough through the years?
You've been TORTURED?? :o
Aw....don't say that. This notion pains me to no end. lol
Yes Tortured! LOL Still have not gotten over the WB fiasco and past proposed new DS projects. Oh, the many proposed ones. lol
Actually I owe an apology to the Fest. I just remembered that it was their website who first announced the news that the WB had ordered filming of the DS pilot. So there may be some truth to what they now claim but I will take Stuart's advice and hope for something more concrete.
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Just to give another perspective--and this is certainly not directed against the many fans who love the idea of Tim Burton and Johnny Depp doing Dark Shadows--in my opinion, neither the director nor the star would be right for a new incarnation of the series.
I have no idea who to suggest. It would be great to bring in some fresh faces from the NYC theatre world as was done the first time around.
When I think of a new version of DS I would actually enjoy watching (and believe me, it's quite a stretch to think of it at all for me since I do NOT like remakes), I think more along the lines of Gosford Park than the Burton/Depp Sleepy Hollow.
G.
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Just to give another perspective--and this is certainly not directed against the many fans who love the idea of Tim Burton and Johnny Depp doing Dark Shadows--in my opinion, neither the director nor the star would be right for a new incarnation of the series.
I have no idea who to suggest. It would be great to bring in some fresh faces from the NYC theatre world as was done the first time around.
When I think of a new version of DS I would actually enjoy watching (and believe me, it's quite a stretch to think of it at all for me since I do NOT like remakes), I think more along the lines of Gosford Park than the Burton/Depp Sleepy Hollow.
I think any re-imagination of a new DS project needs to be controlled by someone who understands the essence of what makes DS Dark Shadows. It seems for example, that it has been reported that Hogan did not have a good handle on DS when he filmed the WB pilot. I think a director like Tarantino would film a great DS movie. I think Depp would do a great job as well but you are also right in that there are many fresh actors out there who could also play the Barnabas character and the other ones as well. The problem is that studios want big time actors for their movies for good or bad. Depp certainly has the acting ability and is a highly marketable actor to any studio wanting to do a new DS movie We can only wish.
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I think more along the lines of Gosford Park than the Burton/Depp Sleepy Hollow.G
Dear Goddess, no. Gosford Park? Not unless they use Luciaphil's technique of turning off the sound and using the Closed Captioning option. It's the only way to understand a word of dialogue in that film.
And for the record, I think Depp would be perfect for the role of Barnabas. Forget his performance in "Sleepy Hollow".....see him in "From Hell" THAT'S a tortured soul.
Not that ANY of this is EVER going to actually HAPPEN...... ::)
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And for the record, I think Depp would be perfect for the role of Barnabas. Forget his performance in "Sleepy Hollow".....see him in "From Hell" THAT'S a tortured soul.
I bought that DVD almost a year ago and haven't watched it yet. But now you've gotten me really intrigued so I'll definitely have to make the time to watch it.
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He is great in that film. ;D
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Gothick, I see what you are saying. I think casting New York theatre actors (preferably, classically trained actors) would be great too, if they are directed by someone who understands the nature of DS. At the same time, I see Burton (and Depp) as two people who are into the subject matter (spooky gothic romantic stuff) and into the original series as well. I do think Burton can go the silly/campy route sometimes and I definitely wouldn't want that in a new DS. I assume, if he ever made a DS movie, he'd know better than to go that route with it. I can't think of another director either. I know Tarantino likes DS, but his movies are generally too drenched in pop-culture. Don't get me wrong, I like his movies, but I just can't see him doing a DS film.
I think Johnny Depp would make a great, hot and wicked Quentin actually. For Barnabas, maybe Johnny Depp or Alan Rickman (when he played Snape in 'Harry Potter', I thought he had a Barnabas-esque look to him, plus he's a great actor). As I said in another thread, I think Cate Blachett would make a great Angelique. Ah, I guess there's no point in this. It'll never happen. Then again, one never knows...
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I would be really excited to see a Quentin Tarantino -- Johnny Depp DS simply because we know they are big fans of the original show so it would be interesting to see what cool ideas they would have for it. If it was a little too wild, we could simply consider it a story from Parallel Time -- LOL!
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Cool. The people have decided that Tarantino will direct the new DS movie and Depp will play Barnabas. Not to shabby. lol
I guess I started this topic to get an understanding as to why the Fest would go on the record to report that there is this new potential movie in the works when it all may be just a big tease and/or an attempt to draw more fans to the upcoming Fest (if this was not true). Other than that, I can't see a reason as to why the Fest would report this alleged ongoing developmental project if it was not actually happening (besides Connie's interesting theory lol). Obviously, we are all grateful to the Festival and its importance to the continuation of the DS franchise and for all the hard work its people do year after year. I just think we deserve better and Mulder would like to know the answer too as he trusts no one and knows that the truth is out there. lol
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All that statement means is that DC is open to reviving DS in some form, at some point, if the right vehicle comes along.
Gothele, I like your suggestion of a Gosford Park-esque remake of DS. It certainly would be interesting to see what Robert Altman would do with DS.
Don't like the idea of a Tarantino-directed remake, though. I can't imagine a DS filled with movie in-jokes and pop culture references. ;) I do think that Tim Burton would be an interesting choice because his films feel as if they take place in their own private universes. IMHO, DS needs to take place in a world unto itself, far away from the "real world."
As for casting, I'd love to see Faye Dunaway as Elizabeth. I think she'd do a great job capturing the elegance, imperiousness, and strength of the character.
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All that statement means is that DC is open to reviving DS in some form, at some point, if the right vehicle comes along.
I respectfully disagree with your position on this matter. Nothing personal obviously.
It is simply not what was stated to all DS fans receiving the mailings. The DS Festival clearly stated that there was a potential new DS movie being planned. This statement is alluding to something much more than that DC is open to another new DS project. To me it implies that there is a script for a new DS movie that is being actively shopped to various studios and/or there are ongoing discussions with various studios on a potential new DS movie. The latter is not the same as the word "planned".By definition a plan can be a project or a script-something in the works. We have all been told that DC is open to reviving DS in the future. That is a given. If nothing was happening at the moment on a new DS movie project, that is fine with me and the Fest should not state otherwise. If there are ongoing discussions between DC and the studios, I do not obviously expect the powers that be to inform us fans of same. In my opinion the Fest is manipulating unsuspecting DS fans to believe that there is a new movie being planned. I do not believe that I am splitting hairs here. To me there is a difference here. I do hope that the right vehicle comes along for a new DS project.
On a happier note, I hope all the mothers here are having a great day!!!
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"a potential new DS movie and other projects are being planned..."
Has so much ever been read into so little?
po·ten·tial (p-tnshl)
adj.
Capable of being but not yet in existence; latent: a potential problem.
Having possibility, capability, or power.
n.
The inherent ability or capacity for growth, development, or coming into being.
Something possessing the capacity for growth or development.
Applying that logic, has there ever been a time when there hasn't been potential for a new DS movie? Sorry guys, but Dan Curtis sitting in his office saying "I'd like to make a DS movie" doesn't really cut much ice. If wellmeaning intentions were all it took to get a film project bankrolled, we'd all be in showbusiness.
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And for the record, I think Depp would be perfect for the role of Barnabas. Forget his performance in "Sleepy Hollow".....see him in "From Hell" THAT'S a tortured soul.
I bought that DVD almost a year ago and haven't watched it yet. But now you've gotten me really intrigued so I'll definitely have to make the time to watch it.
I watched the DVD today and I was just blown away on so many levels.
I know people have been saying Depp could be an interesting Barnabas, but I never really saw it. However, now, after watching his performance in From Hell, I think I'd be thrilled if the unlikely event was ever to happen and he was cast in the role. You weren't exaggerating in the slightest, Rainey, when you said "THAT'S a tortured soul."
And then there's the movie itself. Forget Tarantino and Burton - if there ever would be a new DS theatrical film, someone sign the Hugheses to direct, Peter Deming to be the director of photography, and Martin Childs as the production designer. In particular the look of From Hell is just incredible, especially the use of light and shadow. Any potential DS film would be lucky to look half as good. Their combined efforts make for what I only hope another DS film could be.
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Geez, Pepe.....don't be shy or anything. Tell us what you REALLY think of "From Hell"..... [lghy]
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why the Fest would go on the record to report that there is this new potential movie in the works when it all may be just a big tease and/or an attempt to draw more fans to the upcoming Fest
Yes, they're probably just trying to draw people to the Fest and also keep up the interest in DS. Sigh. It would be cool. though, if it was also an attempt to pressure DC into actually coming up with a new DS project! Woohoo! Hee hee!
Mulder would like to know the answer too as he trusts no one and knows that the truth is out there. lol
LOL! [thumb]
OK, so far we've had ''Gosford Park," "Sleepy Hollow," and "From Hell" -- here's what I'd really like to see in a new DS movie: "House of Wax"/"Dawn of the Dead"(04)/"American Werewolf in London"/"Dracula Has Risen From the Grave"! Yeah, baby, yeah! (LOL!)
Hey, we all have our own opinions! ;) LOL!
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"a potential new DS movie and other projects are being planned..."
Has so much ever been read into so little?
Applying that logic, has there ever been a time when there hasn't been potential for a new DS movie? Sorry guys, but Dan Curtis sitting in his office saying "I'd like to make a DS movie" doesn't really cut much ice. If wellmeaning intentions were all it took to get a film project bankrolled, we'd all be in showbusiness.
Is see you went to the dictionary too Stuart. lol I had to use my high school thesaurus. lol
Seriously, you are right in saying (at least what I think you are saying) that the Fest's representation, that there is a potential new DS movie being planned, should not have been made based on a history of DC making similar comments coupled with the fact that there may not be anything actually happening. I remember several years or more ago, in a magazine article (Fangoria?), DC boasted something like ' I have decided it is time to make a new DS movie'. That was said when there apparently was no new script and no studio backing. Well the movie never happened. Perhaps Mary is right when she posted that perhaps this statement was made to draw more people to the Fest. I just don't think it is ethically sound.
The end. lol
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Perhaps Mary is right when she posted that perhaps this statement was made to draw more people to the Fest. I just don't think it is ethically sound.
Eh! I don't believe the statement was made as a Fest draw. I'm not inclined to suspect under-handed motives on the part of organizers (or actually, DS people in general).
I'm still partial to the 3-martini scenario. ;D
[nut]
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Since I am a loyal fan of the original DS, I had trouble in seeing the remake of the show on TV. I would not mind to see another made but it would have to stay within the original idea. The fact that there so many actors and actresses out there that we find facinating, can we actually stay loyal if we try someone who may good with one element and suck in another? Stay true to the story and then stay true to the characters. I do not know the answer but I do know that any imitation is not even up to the original's standard. :)
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"a potential new DS movie and other projects are being planned..."
Has so much ever been read into so little?
Applying that logic, has there ever been a time when there hasn't been potential for a new DS movie? Sorry guys, but Dan Curtis sitting in his office saying "I'd like to make a DS movie" doesn't really cut much ice. If wellmeaning intentions were all it took to get a film project bankrolled, we'd all be in showbusiness.
Is see you went to the dictionary too Stuart. lol I had to use my high school thesaurus. lol
Seriously, you are right in saying (at least what I think you are saying) that the Fest's representation, that there is a potential new DS movie being planned, should not have been made based on a history of DC making similar comments coupled with the fact that there may not be anything actually happening. I remember several years or more ago, in a magazine article (Fangoria?), DC boasted something like ' I have decided it is time to make a new DS movie'. That was said when there apparently was no new script and no studio backing. Well the movie never happened. Perhaps Mary is right when she posted that perhaps this statement was made to draw more people to the Fest. I just don't think it is ethically sound.
The end. lol
So, exactly how is what Stuart wrote different from what I wrote? I'm curious because you made a point of disagreeing with me and now you're agreeing with what is essentially the same opinion but expressed by someone else.
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Gothele, I like your suggestion of a Gosford Park-esque remake of DS. It certainly would be interesting to see what Robert Altman would do with DS.
I agree...actually I told my mom about that idea and she liked it too. And we all know mother knows best... ;) :-*
As for casting, I'd love to see Faye Dunaway as Elizabeth. I think she'd do a great job capturing the elegance, imperiousness, and strength of the character.
Interesting idea... And FWIW, as far as that mailer is concerned (like many of you I think its much ado about nothin' for now), its like the old saying...believe only half of what you read, and in this case, who really knows what the future will bring. And as a certain divine redhead would say, that and a quarter will get you a cup of coffee (or something ^-^). Thank you and good night... LOL ;D
p.s. Connie, I think it was a chocolate martini... >:D ;)
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Perhaps Mary is right when she posted that perhaps this statement was made to draw more people to the Fest. I just don't think it is ethically sound.
I don't see what the problem is. All it's saying is that DS might have a future - that in itself is not an active reason to attend a festival... If anyone wants to attend a convention solely because of a half a sentence of maybes, they deserve all they get.
I'm reminded of a joke first coined by another TV fandom, but it's kinda apt:
Q: How many Dark Shadows fans does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: None. They just sit and wait for it to come back on again.
Those are the jokes, folks - I'm here all week.
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So, exactly how is what Stuart wrote different from what I wrote? I'm curious because you made a point of disagreeing with me and now you're agreeing with what is essentially the same opinion but expressed by someone else.
I will try to answer your question after I down some of some of the drinks Connie feels the Fest is drinking. lol
I still do disagree with your interpretation of what the Fest had meant when it claimed that there was a potential new DS movie being planned. You stated that, "All that statement means is that DC is open to reviving DS in some form, at some point if the right vehicle comes along". Now comes the difficult part for me because I really don't exactly know what Stuart meant in his last post. Only he can say if my take on his post is on the mark. I think Stuart was saying is that the Fest should not have made that statement (basis of this topic) because it is based on DC's belief that he can make a DS movie almost at will and when he felt like doing so and that a new DS movie is always about to happen. I agree that DC feels this way is some egotistic context.
I do agree with you in the context that DC would immediately do a new DS movie if it fell in his lap (simply put). But I disagree with your interpretation of what the Fest's message was suppose to be to the fans receiving the mailings. The Fest clearly intended to advise DS fans that a potential new DS movie was in the works. I just think it is a misleading statement. It just comes down to our different interpretation of what the Fest intended us to understand. So perhaps we agree with each other in a different vein.
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I think Stuart was saying is that the Fest should not have made that statement (basis of this topic) because it is based on DC's belief that he can make a DS movie almost at will and when he felt like doing so and that a new DS movie is always about to happen. I agree that DC feels this way is some egotistic context.
I don't think that at all - the Festival can say what it likes. I just don't get why it warrants any detailed discussion, because there's nothing there to really talk about.
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I don't think that at all - the Festival can say what it likes. I just don't get why it warrants any detailed discussion, because there's nothing there to really talk about.
When I wrote "the end" in one of my last posts, I thought this topic had concluded. But I believe ClaudeNorth deserved a response to his question to me. Sorry if I put words in your mouth.
I never dreamed that this topic would have generated the responses that it did. Actually, I had some real good laughs here. This topic could have made the basis of a Seinfeld episode. All about nothing.
Again Stuart I apologize if I took liberties with your posts. Thanks for correcting the record.
The end?
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Agreed. I think handing the pen off to someone who's just going to fast forward through
the eps just to get a good GIST of the show is certainly not going to cut it here. It takes
a fan to do a show justice when put on the big screen. ~DJ
A DS movie could be really cool if handled by people who would understand the series and the characters. I'm leaning toward Tim Burton, if he does it seriously.
Hopefully they'll announce something soon.
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While it helps that someone is familiar with the DS vehicle, I feel the main criterion is someone who knows how to make a film. One that captivates our imagination, can tell a good story and knows how to cast actors that fit the characters in question is always a first choice for me. Will it be the original? By no means. Could it be better then the original? You bet.
However, just having a fan that isn't a good film maker make a DS movie is a lose, lose proposition for the entire vehicle, original, new and indifferent.
As a general rule, I never believe anything concerning new DS ventures unless it's confirmed by other third party newspapers.
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Q: How many Dark Shadows fans does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: None. They just sit and wait for it to come back on again.
Those are the jokes, folks - I'm here all week.
[lghy] [hello] [lghy]
I love this! Got any others?
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While it helps that someone is familiar with the DS vehicle, I feel the main criterion is someone who knows how to make a film. One that captivates our imagination, can tell a good story and knows how to cast actors that fit the characters in question is always a first choice for me. Will it be the original? By no means. Could it be better then the original? You bet.
However, just having a fan that isn't a good film maker make a DS movie is a lose, lose proposition for the entire vehicle, original, new and indifferent.
As a general rule, I never believe anything concerning new DS ventures unless it's confirmed by other third party newspapers.
Oh, but it's fun to dream, isn't it. ;)
And that's pretty much what I meant in a nutshell. I didn't mean to say that they'd be better off taking just any fan
off the street, give them a pen and paper and say, "Here! Doodle out a script!" No, I'm talking about the more experienced
screen-play writers, directors, etc., who are familiar with Dark Shadows. Either way, I'd watch it b/c I'm a hardcore fan, but
it'd still be nice to have someone who's not only a fan themselves but who's skilled in the field, also. And DAMMIT I didn't
mean to rhyme that... lol. ~DJ
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My nephew announced (about a week ago) that he had just seen a trailer/promo for the new Willy Wonka movie. Anyway, I bring it up because he says Johnny Depp plays the title role and that Tim Burton is director. So I was wondering if anyone else has seen it and has come away with any sense of a yea or nay on the much discussed fantasy of Depp as Barn and Burton as director (in a DS movie), based on your viewing of the preview of their current collaboration?
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My family saw the trailer several weeks ago. My son asked me if the man playing Willy Wonka was Michael Jackson. Depp looks kinda creepy. Not Barnabas creepy but icky creepy. I think I may see the film out of curiosity. I would be interested in everyones first impression upon seeing the trailer.
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I'm with onyx_treasure-- he looks bizarre.
The preview is here: http://chocolatefactorymovie.warnerbros.com/video.html. Violet (Denise Nickerson's role) is now a tiny blonde.
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I plan on seeing it. I'm no Willy Wonka fan, but I love Depp and I like Burton, so I'm automatically curious if nothing else. It does look really out there....
It really doesn't make a good comparison to a DS film with Depp and Burton. If something is to be compared, I think Sleepy Hollow would be the better choice (it achieved a really beautiful gothic tone, IMO), and even then, their DS would have an atomsphere all its own I'm sure.
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As Barnabas'Bride said, the film to look at would be 'Sleepy Hollow' when trying to imagine what the Burton/Depp pairing might be like in a DS remake. I look forward to Willie Wonka. I enjoyed the original film a great deal, and this one looks even more outlandish and bizarre. It does look like they're kind of doing a piss-take on Michael Jackson, which is kind of funny.
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Depp looks kinda creepy. Not Barnabas creepy but icky creepy. I think I may see the film out of curiosity. I would be interested in everyones first impression upon seeing the trailer.
That's what I thought too -- eww! (LOL!)
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Depp looks kinda creepy.
I was 18 years old when the FIRST "Willy Wonka" was released and I always thought THAT movie was pretty creepy. My daughter, on the other hand, thinks it's hilarious, and has every intention of seeing the new one, especially because of Mr. Depp. ::)
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It really doesn't make a good comparison to a DS film with Depp and Burton. If something is to be compared, I think Sleepy Hollow would be the better choice (it achieved a really beautiful gothic tone, IMO), and even then, their DS would have an atomsphere all its own I'm sure.
I didn't remember that these two have worked together before. Didn't see Sleepy Hollow, but that's no excuse for not retaining what I read in posts/replies (in this thread even! ::) ).
I really should listen to my inner voice when it tells me not to post something. :-
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I didn't remember that these two have worked together before..
Besides 'Sleepy Hollow' and 'Willy Wonka,' they also worked together in 'Edward Scissorhands' and 'Ed Wood'. Depp will also provide voice talent in Burton's upcoming stop-motion fim 'The Corpse Bride' which looks fantastic judging from the trailer. I really like the pairing of these two (along with Danny Elfman's scores). They seem to share an interest in depicting these great macabre outsider characters, who all have their hearts in the right places, but are perceived as freaks by the outside world.
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That's one movie we're definitely, at least, planning to see. But this last time with Star Wars, Ep III we had arranged for my MIL to take care of our little baby, and she kind of made vacation plans at the last minute. Arrrgh! Anyway, we think we'll be seeing it on Monday.
She wants to make ammends for forgetting the last time. In fact, she felt so bad, she didn't even go on vacation...
Willy Wonka was a childhood fave of mine, so even if we don't get to see it on opening day (i love opening day!!), we'll see it sometime
soon after... hopefully. ;) ~DJ
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I don't think I'd like to see Tim Burton or Depp do a DS project, TBH. I guess that's the problem with so-called "dream" choice - it's all a bit obvious. However it's approached, it'd just be "Sleepy Hollow" deja vu.
I don't think that a fan actor/director is a good match, as the ghosts of the old show limit the scope. Look at the 1991 show - for me at least, virtually all its shortcomings have the vibe of Dan Curtis insisting "Dark Shadows *has* to be done this way!"
The fact is, there are no rules. If you want to do a new DS, it should be something as different and imaginative as the original was in its day - and you can't do that if you're treading in 40 year old footsteps.
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I agree that it should be different and imaginative, but I think that Depp and Burton could make it those things, even if they are fans of the original show. I think they would respect the source material, but would come up with their own creative spin. Neither seem to be the type to copy something too closely, IMHO. I don't think their DS would be too much like Sleepy Hollow (maybe in atmosphere, which would be fine with me), nor would it stick too close to the original series. I see them doing their own thing if they can.
Out of all the big name actors out there, Depp would likely be my first choice to play Barnabas in a DS film. His talent and creativity with a part never ceases to impress me.
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......and in the end we always come back to the eternal problem with remakes: how do you balance the need to be innovative, with the need to be authentic to the original production?
It's the reason I dread movie versions of books I love, and why I don't really know what to wish for in terms of a "new" Dark Shadows.
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While I think Depp is a terrific actor, the big star that I think would be a brilliant Barnabas is Hugh Jackman. And no, not VAN HELSING Hugh Jackman- KATE & LEOPOLD Hugh Jackman...He basically IS Barnabas in that movie. It's like the proverbial hand and glove.
If I was directing the movie, my first offer would be to him. Hands down.
If you've seen the movie, you know exactly what I mean, even if you didn't like the film.
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Darren, thanks for mentioning this. I haven't seen any of Jackman's projects (the ones I have heard about have all been the kind of blockbuster things that put me to sleep) but I *have* been wanting to see him in something because I'm so intrigued by what the Divine One would call his "physical attributes."
I'll be sure to put Kate & Leopold on my list of movies to rent!
Thanks,
Steve
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Darren, thanks for mentioning this.
I'll be sure to put Kate & Leopold on my list of movies to rent!
Ditto.
I like Jackman a lot. I have seen (most of) Van Helsing, but the Jackman I am familiar with is the Talk Show circuit Jackman - I fell "in love" with him. ( ::) )
That said, I can't picture him in the role of Barnabas. So I am now very eager to catch him in K&L.
Has anyone else seen K&L and come away with the same impression as Darren?
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I will be watching Kate and Leopold as soon as I can. I wanted to see this movie anyway. I also want to point out that Johnny Depp is a great actor every one of his characters is different from any of his other characters. Compare is Capt Jack from Pirates of the Caribean to Ed Wood, Compare his Gilbert Grape to his character in Chocolat. He was great in From Hell, and this character was completely different from the character he played in Sleepy Hollow. I have yet to see Finding Neverland, but I'll give you my feedback after I see Kate and Leopold and Finding Neverland.
I think that Depp would be able to make a believable Barnabas, and at the same time make him his own.
Misa
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That's why I love Johnny Depp - the way he effortlessly plays different characters. When I'm watching him onscreen, I never see "Johnny Depp playing ___ (insert character name)" , I always see that character. I think he possesses a lot of talent, and has what it takes to play his own version of Barnabas.
I've seen bits and pieces of Kate & Leopold, but Jackman has never really struck me as someone to play Barnabas. I can't put my finger on the exact reason why that is. His acting isn't the reason, because I think he's a good actor and I like him.
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I also think Depp would make a good Quentin, perhaps even moreso than Barnabas (although he'd be very good in that role too). Depp just seems so right for the role of a charismatic cad with an interest debauchery and in the occult.
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I wolud like to see a Daytime Monday through Friday Dark Shadows :The Next Generation
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I also think Depp would make a good Quentin, perhaps even moreso than Barnabas (although he'd be very good in that role too). Depp just seems so right for the role of a charismatic cad with an interest debauchery and in the occult.
I agree that he would make a good Quentin, but I think it would be more fascinating to watch him in the role of Barnabas. I think Quentin's personality makes him seem a more obvious choice for Depp, but Depp would really shine as Barnabas.
I haven't really thought of who I would cast in a movie version of DS...it's really hard to do. Or maybe I'm just really picky. ;)
On the subject of Quentin though....I wonder (if DS was ever turned into a movie or trilogy, etc), if we would even see the character of Quentin. I would assume they would start with Barnabas and that the most likely setting would be 1795.
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I wolud like to see a Daytime Monday through Friday Dark Shadows :The Next Generation
I totally agree. I think that TPTB have been trying to feel the waters for some time now to see how a 'spooky' type serial would go over.
I'm referring to Passions (with ?the Nanny, sorry, don't know characters name..Tabitha?) and also, wasn't it Port Charles which had vampires?
This, while at same time huge popularity of BtVS, Angel and Charmed on weekly nights.
Next generation sounds good; perhaps keep a few core characters on (absolutely must have Nancy Barrett)...maybe David's son or daughter....Hallie (I'm ducking now!).
Patti
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I'm referring to Passions (with ?the Nanny, sorry, don't know characters name..Tabitha?) and also, wasn't it Port Charles which had vampires?
Yep, Tabitha -- Juliet Mills -- Nanny from "Nanny and the Professor -- now I'm starting to really miss my childhood! LOL! And yes, it was Port Charles with the vampires. I miss Caleb -- sob! LOL!
Next generation sounds good; perhaps keep a few core characters on (absolutely must have Nancy Barrett)...maybe David's son or daughter....Hallie (I'm ducking now!).
LOL! I haven't seen Hallie since the original run when I was a kid and (uh, probably risking my life revealing this -- ha!) I liked her then. Liked her Disney movies too and I'm looking forward to seeing her at the Fest this summer. (Uh oh -- guess I'd better duck now too! Eek! LOL!)