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Re: Traskian logic?  Please explain
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2003, 07:51:43 AM »
To me, it kinda makes sense that Edward would become a valet, gentleman's gentleman, head butler, Hazel, whatever.  As Edward Collins, stiff Victorian concerned about family honor and all that jazz, he was obsessed with it to the point of maximum stress.  It was a load of responsibility.  However, as a sophisticated domestic, he no longer carries that load, and yet remains in an environment to which he is accustomed (refined and all that).  He can still be concerned about family well-being, but it doesn't have to consume him, as it's someone else's family, not his.  Edward, as a fancy-pants butler, can now have the best of both worlds and none of the malarkey of either.

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also Alice from The Brady bunch and French fron Family  Affair i need a house servant with no life!!!!!!!

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Re:Traskian logic?  Please explain
« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2003, 09:16:25 AM »
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also Alice from The Brady bunch

Wasn't Alice having a fling with Sam the butcher? LOL!!


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Re:Traskian logic?  Please explain
« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2003, 09:29:19 AM »
Wasn't Alice having a fling with Sam the butcher? LOL!! 

Yes, but they never consumated the relationship.  They just went bowling a lot.  (Eh!  Same thing)

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Re:Traskian logic?  Please explain
« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2003, 05:54:23 PM »
Jennifer Wrote:
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also Alice from The Brady bunch

Wasn't Alice having a fling with Sam the butcher? LOL!!


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Ya know, that one is SOOOOO easy, I think I am just gonna let that one go ..... and if I were to 'deliver' some 'unbeatable' 'cuts' they would probably be too 'raw' for the folks here that might like to 'mince' words.  Well done, Cassandra.

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Re:Traskian logic?  Please explain
« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2003, 07:32:51 PM »
Didn't Trask consider the possiblity of a little olive branch if Quentin and Charity got together?  Also, I believe in Victorian times, it took years to have someone declared legally dead such as the case of Laura.  But still, Judith did control the bulk of the money and he reasoned it would be much quicker to get it out of her than wait around for Laura's death certificate or risk a baby interfering with his plans so he has to elminate Minerva, Jamison and Nora.
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Re:Traskian logic?  Please explain
« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2003, 07:24:01 AM »
Well, we ARE talking Trask here.  Logic?  His only concern was to get people out of the way as quickly as possible by whatever means possible.  Maybe Charity was becoming a liability in his GRAND SCHEME.   :-
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Re: Traskian logic?  Please explain
« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2003, 02:45:05 AM »
The man is just so irritating and i agree makes no sense
He knows quentin has no money or control of the estate, a bad risk also for his daughter!

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Trask Irritating?...who dares to say such devilish things about the almightee Trask ?! ;)
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Re:Traskian logic?  Please explain
« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2003, 07:57:02 AM »
I agree Maggie. . .he's great.  And i often forget there is a 30-year old actor in there. .that he isn't some uptight, Ebenezer type of character. . .Jerry Lacey is great!
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Re:Traskian logic?  Please explain
« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2003, 11:07:32 AM »
I agree Maggie. . .he's great.  And i often forget there is a 30-year old actor in there. .that he isn't some uptight, Ebenezer type of character. . .Jerry Lacey is great!
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Re:Traskian logic?  Please explain
« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2003, 06:45:15 AM »
Jennifer Wrote:
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also Alice from The Brady bunch

Wasn't Alice having a fling with Sam the butcher? LOL!!


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yeah but she used to dump him every time the Brady's had a problem (every 5 seconds)!(wasn't he from Mchale's navy)

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Re: Traskian logic?  Please explain
« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2003, 06:48:45 AM »
Trask Irritating?...who dares to say such devilish things about the almightee Trask ?! ;)
I have to say..I looooooooove Trask..he absolutely cracks me up..I don't know how any of the actors worked with him and didn't just fall over laughing..he's hysterical~

of course Lacy is great love the actor not
Gregory He makes him so evil He is one of the great  actors of the show


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do wish amanda and him had run off though!
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Re:Traskian logic? Please explain
« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2003, 01:23:21 AM »
.... Sam the butcher? LOL!!....
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....wasn't he from Mchale's navy)

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Sam [Allan Melvin] wasn't in Mchales navy, but he was in uniform as one of Phil Silver's troop [Henshaw], and with Gomer Pyle [Hacker]and he also was Dick Van D.'s army pal in an ep or two as well.  He was a regular on All in the Family later years, but my favorite shot of him is in the Andy Griffith show [an odd fave of mine], in the ep where he is a con man that gets busted by Barn [the OTHER Barn] and threated to beat him up if he caught him out of uniform.  So the image of him with Tim Conway and that bunch of nuts is an easy leap.

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Re: Traskian logic?  Please explain
« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2003, 04:17:35 AM »
Trask Irritating?...who dares to say such devilish things about the almightee Trask ?! ;)
I have to say..I looooooooove Trask..he absolutely cracks me up..I don't know how any of the actors worked with him and didn't just fall over laughing..he's hysterical~

of course Lacy is great love the actor not
Gregory He makes him so evil He is one of the great  actors of the show


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do wish amanda and him had run off though!
hehehe..now You have to admit..Gregory would be fun to have in your house...to pull pranks on ;D
Amanda isn't worthy of thee Almighty Trask! ;)
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Re: Traskian logic?  Please explain
« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2003, 01:58:27 PM »
I'm a little fuzzy on the logic of turning Edward into an valet for his "moment of truth".  Ideas, anybody?

Not what he sees himself as, but maybe as what he feels he has become since Judith inheirited?  Or even all his life, while being primed to become the heir?  A servant to the family name?

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Re: Traskian logic?  Please explain
« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2003, 03:34:17 PM »
I'm a little fuzzy on the logic of turning Edward into an valet for his "moment of truth".  Ideas, anybody?

Not what he sees himself as, but maybe as what he feels he has become since Judith inheirited?  Or even all his life, while being primed to become the heir?  A servant to the family name?
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    Thank you, Sheenasma.  That is how I see this, too.  Poor Edward always away on family business and then to find out he is not the heir but a mere employee of his family.  I wonder if he got a salary or just room and board.
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